D&D 3E/3.5 Warlock 3.5 ?????

[Darkoverlord]

OK here is the thing it seems that a warlocks main Spell like ability is the eldritch blast ok? Which by the rules states that :

1) It is a ranged touch attack that allows NO saving throws BUT AN ATTACK ROLL right? If so then the attack roll is the base attack+DEX+ROLL for this , however the main bug is that ALL SPELL LIKE ABILITIES ARE CHARISMA BASED , therefore the correct attack roll is base attack+CHA+ROLL correct?


2)Since its a spell like ability that requires attack roll it is also considered WEAPONLIKE (although the damage is considered "untyped") and therefore you can aply a weapon focus feat on it (and as it seems even more weapon feats)and you can also make a critical!?
What is the critical threat for a ranged touch attack? 20 ? And if so the damage multiplier X2?

{Does eldritch blast damage count as “weapon damage”
for the purpose of inspire courage and other effects that
add to weapon damage rolls?
No. Even though the eldritch blast is treated as
“weaponlike” for the purpose of certain feats, it’s not a
weapon.
Can a warlock make a critical hit with an eldritch blast?
Yes—just like a spell or spell-like ability that requires an
attack roll, a warlock can critically hit with an eldritch blast.}
ref: D&D FAQ v.3.5 Update Version: 6/30/08 page 27-28

3)Since Eldritch Blast is treated weapon-like can i apply the following feats on it?:
weapon focus
Greater weapon focus
Point Blank Shot
Precise Shot
Improved critical (duh weapon-like)
Zen Archery
Weapon specialization or it is RANGED SPELL SPECIALIZATION?(if so is there a greater version of it?)

4)Critical question if i take the Acolyte of the Skin as a prestige class(complete arcane page 20) i stack my +1 level existing spell casting class to the warlock class does that mean that besides the invocations i also get the +1d6(from level advancement ) as the warlock advances its "caster level"? Or i take it solely from "warlock"only levels?

 

[Dandu]

1. No

2. Yes.

3. Yes.

4. Yes, but that's a horrible prestige class.

 

[Darkoverlord]

I was thinking for mindbender and Eldritch theurge also.

 

[Dandu]

Mindbender is good for the first level only. Eldritch Theurge isn't bad, because you're going to be a cleric for most of your existence. Works really good on a Warlock8/Ur Priest2

 

[Greenfield]

Question 1: Some of the additional effects of the Warlock's Eldritch Blast may allow Saves. Those would be based on the Warlock's Charisma. The RTA to deliver it is still Dex driven, as are pretty much all ranged attacks.

Question 2: Eldritch Blast is a ray-type effect, so feats that enhance ray type effects would apply.

Question 3: Yes, though I'd go with specialization in Rays, rather than actual weapon specialization.

Question 4: Agree with Dandu

 

[Darkoverlord]

Mindbender is good for the first level only. Eldritch Theurge isn't bad, because you're going to be a cleric for most of your existence. Works really good on a Warlock8/Ur Priest2

Wait i thought that eldritch disciple had divine caster levels
but anyway the warlock/ur priest appeals to me greatly mmmmm warlock/ur priest/eldritch disciple thought there is something that bugs me Spell Focus(evil) .....can i take it as a warlock?

 

[Dandu]

Yes.

 

[Visigani]

It's an interesting interpretation of the rules in order to qualify for the Eldritch Disciple (the one that has divine casting)... as it requires you to worship a chaotic or evil deity.

I don't know that there's anything specifically against Ur Priests worshiping deities.... but it certainly raises a few questions.

 

[Darkoverlord]

Ok here is another thing The empower spell-like ability states that :
In order to select this feat you must meet the equivalent caster level of the spell like ability etc
For eldritch blast
spell level 1st and your caster level 6th ( the math is 2 X effective Spell Level + 2 )
The main question is if i empower the eldritch blast (since weaponlike and core) and imbue it with a brimstone will it also be empowered ?
ETC eldritch blast splvl 1st + 3rd brim stone = 3rd level spell
(the spell-level equivalent is equal to the spell level of the eldritch blast, the
eldritch essence invocation, or the blast shape invocation,
whichever is higher).
Which means i need to be 2X3+2= 10 caster level .....is this right or i am thinking too much and it doesn't matter since the eldritch blast is the warlock main weapon therefore no further metamagic effects needed on it because i empowed it in the first place ?

There is something similar with the ability focus that by just aplying it on the eldritch blast all the eldritch essences take a +DC

If a warlock selects Ability Focus (MM 303) and chooses
for it to affect his eldritch blast, does it still apply when he
uses a blast shape or eldritch essence invocation?
Yes. Whether the warlock is using a frightful blast, an
eldritch cone, or an utterdark eldritch doom, Ability Focus
(eldritch blast) increases the save DC by +2.

Ref : D&D FAQ v.3.5 Update Version: 6/30/08 page 38.

 

[Pergentile]

Think of it like stacking stones on top of each other. Each stone applies weight (and has an effect) on all stones underneath it.

The bottom stone is the Eldritch Blast.
The next stone up would be Shapes and Essences, which are applied to the Edlritch Blast.
The next stone up would be restricted by the stones underneath it (the stranger the shape of the stone, the harder it is to balance another stone atop it), and would be the Empower SLA feat, which would affect the entire stack of stone, which, at this point, is a Brimstone Blast (Eldritch Blast).
Any stones piled atop that would again have to be copacetic with all the stones underneath it, and would affect all of said stones.

This whole thing is probably more confusing than clarifying...