WB to reboot Buffy the Vampire Slayer without Joss Whedon

[Diamond Cross]

Also, there are some things about the original series that irks me that I hope they keep out because of Joss's Feminazism.

Such as his parental issues in which almost every single one of the parents are useless idiots. Especially fathers.

But I'd like them to keep the same sense of humor the series had.

 

[Ares]

I'll givie it an even chance.

While I do enjoy the Buffy and Angel series, there are some things about them that really annoy me, such as Joss's Feminazi ideals.

Really? Whedon has always been hailed as a even-handed writer of strong female characters, and to my knowledge has never been accused of being a femnazi (mysandrist). Please elaborate. Is it just the parents thing?

 

[Umbran]

Au contraire ... any true Whedon devotee would band together with his or her other Whedonesque fanatics. One would draw the short stick and force themselves to watch the movie so they could pick it apart ... the rest will wait until it's on Netflix, downloadable for free via pirate warez, or just wait till it's on TV, and then talk about how terrible it is.

No. No true devotee would trust the opinion of another, or have the patience to wait, or want to see it on anything but a big screen.

 

[John Crichton]

Also, there are some things about the original series that irks me that I hope they keep out because of Joss's Feminazism.

Yeeaah, that's just some misguided Whedon-hate right there. His shows have strong female characters. So do other shows and movies. It's a good thing.

Such as his parental issues in which almost every single one of the parents are useless idiots. Especially fathers.

Buffy's mom was an awesome parent.

 

[jonesy]

I was watching the extras on the Buffy and Angel DVD sets and in them Whedon once or twice expressed how he no longer had any energy left to continue making the show. He seemed really glad that it ended how it did because he just couldn't go on. Just makes you wonder what the real reason is that he turned it down now.

 

[Umbran]

Just makes you wonder what the real reason is that he turned it down now.

It sounds to me like simple burnout.

Plus, now he has the Avengers. Remaking Buffy would be a step backwards.

 

[jaerdaph]

Now that Pee Wee Herman is a hit on Broadway, I hope they cast Paul Reubens again!

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

I was watching the extras on the Buffy and Angel DVD sets and in them Whedon once or twice expressed how he no longer had any energy left to continue making the show. He seemed really glad that it ended how it did because he just couldn't go on. Just makes you wonder what the real reason is that he turned it down now.

Since they were looking at a reboot, he may not have felt he could successfully separate his work on the show. It would have been more of a movie remake of the TV show than a reboot of the original movie.

It could also just be a case of, "Been there, done that."

 

[ShinHakkaider]

Yeeaah, that's just some misguided Whedon-hate right there. His shows have strong female characters. So do other shows and movies. It's a good thing.

Buffy's mom was an awesome parent.

Yeah, you can have strong female characters without making all of the male characters either have a propensity to turn Evil (Angel) a goofball comedy relief (Xander) or untrustworthy (Giles on several occasions. Split loyalty between Buffy and the Watchers for a time anyway...) or just flat out evil (everyone else, Mayor Wilkins, The Master, Spike (off and on), Jonathan, Warren and Andrew,
Caleb).

Yes it's a reverse of what women have had to deal with for a long time and still do to an extent. It doesn't excuse it though.

He does a lot better with Angel, Firefly and to some extent Dollhouse (which I just finished a few days ago). I like the fact that Echo/Caroline was a strong PERSON as opposed to a strong WOMAN, which is what I thought Feminism was about. Parity...not dominance.

I'm a Whedon fan (I love the hell out of Angel, yes even S4) but I really cant find it in me to re-watch my Buffy box sets. They do, in my opinion tend toward the feminazi side of things.

And yes Joyce was an awesome mom.

 

[ShinHakkaider]

And for an excellent example of a show with a strong female lead that doesnt make all of the other males look like douches look no further than Veronica Mars. Especially the relationship between her and her Dad. Yes there were a few times when they were at loggerheads but their respect and love for one another was consistent.

Also her relationships with Logan, Wallace and even Weevil were all very well done without making them look like idiots or one dimensional.

After THE WIRE, VERONICA MARS is probably my second favorite show in terms of being consistently good.