D&D 5E We Would Hate A BG3 Campaign

[Ulorian - Agent of Chaos]

Has anyone ever read this? I came across this article a few years ago and there have been comments in this thread that have pointed my thoughts in its direction.

 

[Oofta]

I did say "sometimes." (rimshot)


I didn't distinguish between players or DMs. I intended for it to apply equally to both.

I didn't think you did - just that it could easily be read that way.

Which is why I prefer things like "There is no one true way."

 

[MichaelSomething]

If a player wants to play a non approved race, the DM can simply counter offer, "I'll allow this race if you first run a mini campaign for three go four sessions so I have a chance to play for once."

There! Now the DM isn't just saying no. They offered a perfectly reasonable solution/compromise and has put the ball in the player's court. It's not the DMs fault if the player isn't committed enough to hold up their end of the bargain.

 

[Oofta]

If a player wants to play a non approved race, the DM can simply counter offer, "I'll allow this race if you first run a mini campaign for three go four sessions so I have a chance to play for once."

There! Now the DM isn't just saying no. They offered a perfectly reasonable solution/compromise and has put the ball in the player's court. It's not the DMs fault if the player isn't committed enough to hold up their end of the bargain.

Totally missing the point of a curated list of races.

 

[jasper]

This makes no sense. All the people posting here, @Neonchameleon, @EzekielRaiden and me, are DMs ourselves.

Why would we think DMs are evil?

Thy knows oneself well?

 

[MichaelSomething]

Totally missing the point of a curated list of races.

Well this tactic is designed for those types of players.

 

[Warpiglet-7]

In the end folks are looking for a right and wrong or some kind of moral justification for their preferences. That is absurd. Do what you want.

It’s about goodness of fit. Like any table situation.

I am DMing for my kids. One is playing a sentient fruit person. That would not be the campaign to run with my more wargame focused group.

In short I have a curated campaign of limited races and a no holds barred one.

So what?

No wrong or right to be found in either choice. Find a group with similar sensitivities.

 

[Oofta]

Well this tactic is designed for those types of players.

People don't do curated races to get something or out of laziness. DMs do it because it fits their vision of their world, because they think it will work best for the type of campaign they want to run. There is no quid pro quo here, nothing the player has to exchange.

You may not understand that or like it, but do you not understand how the DM is just using it to punish and/or get bribes from a player is condescending?

 

[pemerton]

I've got a shelf of Greyhawk material, and quite a bit of Shadow World, OA and other material also. But I don't assume and nothing else is true.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this.

So, my original comment about (what I called) an extreme premise was everything in my folder of notes I've built up over the past few decades is true, and nothing else is allowed.

I've underlined what I think is the key bit in terms of incorporating - or not - player suggestions that go beyond what the GM originally had in mind.

When I use my GH stuff, I don't assume that what is in those books is exhaustive of what is possible. See, eg, my discussion upthread of the PC Golin and his explosives cult.

 

[Mecheon]

I'm just finding it funny we're having the discussion about restricted races on a BG3 thread of all things

Where people have modded all sorts of crazy stuff into the game. Like, we got Hyur, Roegadyn, Garleans and Elezen from FFXIV. The only restrictions are 3d modelling which, yeah, that's a bit of an issue. But the moment its clear, people will add any and everything into this game