Weapon with spell storing ability question

[Pergentile]

Its not here or here.
Also, read this line closely

lolwut? This confused me. Where did you take the following quote from?

Any time the weapon strikes a creature and the creature takes damage from it, the weapon can immediately cast the spell on that creature as a free action if the wielder desires.

You are not wielding a ranged weapon when it strikes the target, it is out of your hand.

Also, just because it doesn't say "weapon or ammunition" doesn't mean that is an intended prohibition from ammunition getting the ability...
English is not my first language, so your posts are confusing to me...
Can you clarify?

 

[Andras]

The line I quoted came from the SRD quote in post #6.


Aside from the fact that the Spell Storing ability is limited to melee weapons in both the DMG and the MIC, arrows aren't a weapon you wield.

The bow is what you wield, and shoot arrows with it. Once the arrow is fired you aren't wielding it and therefore cannot trigger the effect since the effect doesn't happen automatically when it hits something.

You have to choose the trigger the stored spell. If it's not in your hand, you can't trigger it.

If you really want to have a bow that blows things up with spells on arrows, then 2 levels of Arcane Archer are needed for ETA- corrected-Imbue Arrow.

 

[Hassassin]

Spell Storing is only in Table: Melee Weapon Special Abilities so it is clearly only for melee weapons.

If you really want to have a bow that blows things up with spells on arrows, then 2 levels of Arcane Archer are needed for Bestow Spell.

Assuming you mean Imbue Arrow it only takes area effect spells.

As Patryn has said, the weapon simply discharges the spell as an automatic hit. There is no chance for a critical hit.

The description Greenfield quoted doesn't actually say it's an automatic hit, though that is how I've always seen it used...

 

[Tahlilian]

I disagree with the fact that the spell used this way isn't allowed a chance to crit, the weapon is still merely a extention of your hand. It just so happens that the weapon is storing it for you until you wish to release it.

I have yet to find any wording in the SRD that states it shouldn't still crit.

If it's writen somewhere that touch spells used this way are not allowed to crit, then please tell me where.

 

[Tahlilian]

Some classes (perhaps the duskblade?) gain the ability to deliver touch spells with a weapon attack instead of a touch or unarmed strike, in which case you get to use the crit range of your weapon.

No rerolling is necessary.

As stated before, I am playing a duskblade and they have the ability to channel spells

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

As stated before, I am playing a duskblade and they have the ability to channel spells

Right - so that'll come into play if you cast a spell and then use your weapon to deliver the touch.

It doesn't interact with Spell Storing, at all.

 

[Tahlilian]

It doesn't interact with Spell Storing, at all.

I guess im confused, if i use my class ability to channel a touch spell, that spell is allowed a chance to crit. But if i use the spell storing ability of my weapon the spell doesnt crit.

Is this what u guys are saying

 

[Ranger19k]

I disagree with the fact that the spell used this way isn't allowed a chance to crit,.....If it's writen somewhere that touch spells used this way are not allowed to crit, then please tell me where.

The Sage addressed it in the 3.5 FAQ. You obviously don't need to follow his recommendation, but his method of judging the spell as a "rider effect" and thus not eligible to crit, is how I've seen it normally interpreted, both in real life campaigns and in multiple internet threads. Your call though.

FAQ:

If a duskblade scores a critical hit when channeling a spell through a melee attack, is the spell’s damage multiplied just like the weapon’s?

The rules aren’t as clear as they could be, but the Sage is inclined to say no. Here’s the key sentence, from the PHB II, page 20: “If the attack is successful, the attack deals damage normally; then the effect of the spell is resolved.” If you score a critical hit, the attack deals the normal
(critical) damage. Then the spell resolves normally, but it’s just a rider effect applied due to the successful attack roll—you’re not actually using the spell in the normal manner, so it can’t score a critical hit.

 

[lordxaviar]

In this case, you'd get only the normal effects of shocking grasp - 1d6/level electrical damage.

Some classes (perhaps the duskblade?) gain the ability to deliver touch spells with a weapon attack instead of a touch or unarmed strike, in which case you get to use the crit range of your weapon.

No rerolling is necessary.

Agree with this also..

 

[aluzer]

Spell Storing may not be listed as a property for ranged ammo but in Faiths and Pantheons the deity Mystra is listed as using:

+5 distance keen returning shock spell storing shuriken.


so whether its legit or not evidently deities can still do it