"Weenie List" of Ubiquitous & Popular Magic Items

[Azlan]

Azlan: Maybe you should be posting in the 'Narrow Minded DM' thread, seems to suit you better.

So, it's narrow-minded for me to be saying that there's something screwy about everyone and his brother running around with a ubiquitous collection of cheap, stackable magic items?

That or you are just another DM who doesn't understand how to run a higher level, powerfull group effectivelly and to compensate for your inadequacy you are hamstringing your players.

Truly, one must be thick-skinned to post for any length of time on this board!

I tend to run low- to mid-level campaigns. I do not like high-level campaigns, because for me the latter becomes more a game like a comicbook superhero RPG or an anime RPG, than a game of quasi-historical heroic fantasy.

I do, however, know how to run a high-level, powerful group. I do not, however, like to be involved in a game of constant one-upmanship between my players and myself. I went through a period of playing those kinds of RPG campaigns, years ago, and it just wasn't fun for me.

 

[kreynolds]

Truly, one must be thick-skinned to post for any length of time on this board!

There are times, yes. But, please, understand that some of the backlash you receive probably has to do with your posturing, oh, and it might help to look at it as a kind of initiation or something.

Anyways.

I tend to run low- to mid-level campaigns. I do not like high-level campaigns, because for me the latter becomes more a game like a comicbook superhero RPG or an anime RPG, than a game of quasi-historical heroic fantasy.

I do, however, know how to run a high-level, powerful group. I do not, however, like to be involved in a game of constant one-upmanship between my players and myself. I went through a period of playing those kinds of RPG campaigns, years ago, and it just wasn't fun for me.

That's cool. But I'd bet good money that if you found some new players, preferably a completely different gaming group, that might change for ya'.

 

[Azlan]

when you are attempting to build an argument as to why certain magic items are horribly unbalanced, a guffaw such as this literally translates your entire argument into so much "hot air". It also shows the lack of understanding regarding the rudimentaries of magic item construction.

Bah. Legalism.

 

[gamecat]

I do not, however, like to be involved in a game of constant one-upmanship between my players and myself. I went through a period of playing those kinds of RPG campaigns, years ago, and it just wasn't fun for me.

I beg to differ. IMC, the struggles between Westenberger the Jovial and The Flaming Rheo are an endless source of comedy.

 

[Azlan]

But, please, understand that some of the backlash you receive probably has to do with your posturing

No doubt, it is due to my posturing. And I might be given to take it more personally, if not for the fact that just about anyone who posts a radical or controversial idea, here, gets pelted, left and right, by the peanut gallery. (More posturing, eh? Sorry. )

 

[kreynolds]

No doubt, it is due to my posturing. And I might be given to take it more personally, if not for the fact that just about anyone who posts a radical or controversial idea, here, gets pelted, left and right, by the peanut gallery. (More posturing, eh? Sorry. )

Sometimes the backlash on the D&D Rules thread can indeed be harsh. Usually, this can be atributed to the fact that said argument has been argued countless times before until every individual involved was "blue in the face".

Then again, sometimes the House Rules thread is more appropriate for said discussions. Unfortunately, the search function on these boards is disabled, because maybe situations like this could be avoided by reading the previous threads before stepping into territories that have already been extensively explored. On the other hand, I don't have time to sift through the thousands upon thousands of previous threads, so I won't ask you to do it either.

 

[kreynolds]

Bah. Legalism.

legalism
n.

1) Strict, literal adherence to the law or to a particular code, as of religion or morality. <--- The code or law in question here is your failure to understand the rules behind the construction of magic items, thus I doubt the validity of your entire argument.
2) A legal word, expression, or rule. <--- There's a reason why they call this the D&D Rules thread.

EDIT: Yes, I did indeed use Dictionary.com to grab that definition.

 

[Azlan]

legalism
n.

1) Strict, literal adherence to the law or to a particular code, as of religion or morality. <--- The code or law in question here is your failure to understand the rules behind the construction of magic items, thus I doubt the validity of your entire argument.

So? I made a mistake and overlooked the prerequisite for the Keen and Energy enchantments. (It's not like the crux of my argument was about just those two enchantments.) Why does that invalidate my entire argument? Are you going to declare a mistrial or something, because of a mistake or a technicality?

2) A legal word, expression, or rule. <--- There's a reason why they call this the D&D Rules thread.

I understand that. But there is the letter of the law, and then there is the spirit of the law. You seem to be arguing more for former; and I, the latter. Thus I injected the word "legalism".

 

[kreynolds]

So? I made a mistake and overlooked the prerequisite for the Keen and Energy enchantments. (It's not like the crux of my argument was about just those two enchantments.) Why does that invalidate my entire argument? Are you going to declare a mistrial or something, because of a mistake or a technicality?

Something like that, yes. Simply put, if you don't know how to build the most basic of magic items, then how can I possibly take your argument on faith that you understand the complexities involved in the balancing of a magic item that grants an increased movement rate and a jump bonus, or a magic item that essentially behaves as a really slick backpack that always has the item you want stored right on top?

I understand that. But there is the letter of the law, and then there is the spirit of the law. You seem to be arguing more for former; and I, the latter. Thus I injected the word "legalism".

Actually, I argue for both sides. Look at it like this: A magic item that allows you to shoot rays of cold for 20d6 points of cold damage as a ranged touch attack may be unbalanced (this is the law part), even though it's built exactly by the rules. However, if that item were to cost somewhere around 350,000 to 450,000gp (also the law part) well, that's not very unbalanced now, is it? Furthermore, it remains with the "spirit" of the game, as the item is indeed powerful, however, it's also really damn expensive, thus only higher level characters could afford it.

Oh. I forgot. You don't like or run high level games.

 

[Gromm]

Braclet of Friendship.
Greatest item ever made that noone really uses.
Give it to the cleric so he can save everyones butt.