Weird Question About Changing Gender

[the Jester]

Okay, don't hate me... this is coming up as an issue with a pc's psychology in the next couple of games in my campaign, believe it or not. Try to keep the discussion mature (not like in the BoVD 'mature,' but like in the not-get-the-thread-closed kind of 'mature') please.

If a male character had a magically-inflicted gender change, would they be considered a virgin? Would it matter if they were a virgin male? Would it matter if they had been a virgin female, changed into a male (for years) and had sex, and then changed back to female? (That's what's happened in a nutshell, by the way.)

The reason it's relevent has to do with an artifact that's slowly killing the character in question and getting her into the proper psychological state to try to take it from her. She's just fallen in love at first site (with her new cohort) and I anticipate the cohort trying to 'save her' from the artifact in question.

 

[Dirigible]

Weird Question About Changing Gender

As opposed to everyday, run of the mill questions about changing gender?

I suppose the 'spiritual impurity' would carry over from a non-virgin male, resulting in a female that wouldn't be considered 'pure' by, say, a unicorn.

Physically... mindboggling. It's entirely depends on the method of the transformation and the DM's understanding of the process. If it's a direct phycial change (flipping the morphic switch from 'manly' to 'feminine'), then I guess the male's lack of virginity would be reflected physically in his new female form.

If it's a kind of rebirth thingy, then I'd say the opposite. He's be reborn as a chaste she.

On the other hand, don;t overthink it. Just decided 'non-virgin male = non-virgin female, in all respects'. Or not.

 

[Aeolius]

Her name isn't Olive Oyl, by chance?

 

[Darkness]

On the other hand, don;t overthink it. Just decided 'non-virgin male = non-virgin female, in all respects'. Or not.

Agreed. The physical part could be repaired with healing magic, I suppose...

 

[Dirigible]

Mayhaps the GUCK has something to meet your needs?

Not that I would know. Heavens, no.

 

[Nightfall]

Wow. That's just twisted. But I'd say that if the male virgin changes into a female via something magical that isn't a result of ressurrection magics gone amok, then yes she would be pure. And vice versa.

Pyschologically it's a very different shift and can lead to issues in one's self, one sexual preferences, perhaps even lead down to more serious mental problems. Issues of self are always challenging. It's like waking up one day and find out the person you thought your were, didn't exist. There would be almost no rules for this person. Now if the person IS grounded and has people to remind them of some aspects of their former life, or at least an aspect of their selves, it might keep them from going off the deep end.

 

[RangerWickett]

When that happened to my girlfriend, I'll admit it was a little disconcerting, but we talked to God, and God said she was pure. Truth be told, He didn't seem to think it was a big deal.

I personally have always thought a fantasy-esque sex switch for a day would be kinda fun, just for a change of pace. I imagine the logistics for adventurers could be difficult, though, what with armor and such not fitting right anymore.

 

[Cedric]

Heh, when I read the topic of this post, I figured it either had to be on topic or WAY, WAY off topic.

Glad to see it was on topic.

Cedric

 

[Mercule]

Heh, when I read the topic of this post, I figured it either had to be on topic or WAY, WAY off topic.

Glad to see it was on topic.

Likewise. I'm trying not to read too much into RangerWicket's post, though.

Anyway, my two-cents is that most magical/curse/whatever things are more interested in the purity of the virginal condition. That would mean it's a psychic mark of some sort and carries over regardless of gender-bending.

If you switch from the mystic to the technologic, then I think you'd have restored virginity, but that's probably not relevant to a D&D game.

 

[Nightfall]

Yeah I was a little concerned we might veer into some kind of twisted fan fiction of some kind...