D&D 5E Werewolves/rats and damage immunity

[Galendril]

So natural phenomena can hurt them but constructed objects can't?

What if they fall on a pointy stalagmite? Do they take piercing damage? What if a giant is nearby and could potentially wield it?

If a tree falls in a forest onto a wererat and no one is around to wield it, is it a weapon?

The stalagmite could be wielded as an improvised weapon, so no damage. There aren't any rules currently about monsters are sufficiently powerful enough to overcome immunity to weapons afaik. So, based off what we currently have, no a giant would not do any damage with with a non magical non silvered stalagmite.

Anything else?

 

[ad_hoc]

The stalagmite could be wielded as an improvised weapon, so no damage. There aren't any rules currently about monsters are sufficiently powerful enough to overcome immunity to weapons afaik. So, based off what we currently have, no a giant would not do any damage with with a non magical non silvered stalagmite.

Anything else?

Why can't that same giant pick up the section of floor they fell on and wield it as a weapon?

Why is a stalagmite considered a separate thing but the rest of the cavern floor is just a whole cavern floor?

What about if an even bigger giant picks up the whole cavern floor?

Please respond with page numbers. I am only interested in the RAW on cavern floors.

 

[Azurewraith]

Why can't that same giant pick up the section of floor they fell on and wield it as a weapon?

Why is a stalagmite considered a separate thing but the rest of the cavern floor is just a whole cavern floor?

What about if an even bigger giant picks up the whole cavern floor?

Please respond with page numbers. I am only interested in the RAW on cavern floors.

I guess at the point its picked up the cavern floor it is held in two hands and therefore an improvised weapon see p.148dmg

 

[ad_hoc]

I guess at the point its picked up the cavern floor it is held in two hands and therefore an improvised weapon see p.148dmg

So the cavern floor is a weapon and as such the wererat would not take falling damage.

 

[S'mon]

No, I'm one of those GM's which require his players to actually think. I won't let them get by on using naked brute force even though they've done no research and/or ignored all clues.

You only accept a particular thought of thinking - "what solution does the GM have in mind".

 

[S'mon]

It appears you're just using the rules as a non-magical, non-silvered bludgeoning weapon to beat down the hypothetical player's tactic because you don't like it. And that's fine as far as that goes - you're the DM and your ruling stands. Let's just not pretend you're following RAW and others are not.

It's not fine. It's the kind of crappy pixelbitch GMing that drives good players up the wall.

 

[iserith]

It's not fine. It's the kind of crappy pixelbitch GMing that drives good players up the wall.

Yeah, I mean, it's not the ruling I'd make, but I support the right of the DM to make whatever ruling he or she wants as long as the players on the receiving end are okay with it. As a player, I'd feel like the rules were being used against us because the DM doesn't like the idea, so I wouldn't be okay with it.

 

[ad_hoc]

It should also be noted that unarmed strikes are not weapons.

 

[iserith]

It should also be noted that unarmed strikes are not weapons.

True, so I guess a good knee to the bollocks and a punch to the grill will sort that wererat out.

 

[Mirtek]

I. So, I'll repeat the line in the Monster Manual which states: Damage Immunities: bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage from nonmagical weapons that aren't silvered.

didn't the errata change this wording?