D&D 5E What are the "True Issues" with 5e?

[Minigiant]

Ones that aren't supernatural relative to the setting they take exist in.

That's fine.

But then magic items have to be mandatory and biased to warrior classes like the older editions.

Or some other variant rule or class bias philosophy to uphold the parameters of the game.

None of which is in the DMG or any 5e book.

Again it all comes down to the issue of 5e being designed requiring your DM to be a vet.

 

[mamba]

See to me there is a middle ground where leveling up reflects a process of becoming superhuman (by earth standards at least) for all classes.

we disagree about how far they can move away from the natural base, that is all

 

[Vaalingrade]

In the section that covers humans, their age ranges, heights, weights, lifting capacities, etc.

And what section covers the capacities for Earth humans?

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

If they are a human, how are they doing that? Like literally how?

Rules say Medium person can grapple a Large target. Manticores are Large. Grapple done, now he can drag them where he wants to.

Say you're walking down the street and you see a guy lift up a car and throw it down the block. So you ask him, "how did you do that?!" You expect there to be some sort of explanation as to how that happened or how he was able to do that. Now imagine he just says "Oh I just lifted it up and threw it" - yes obviously, but how? If 1.) a fighter is a completely mundane/non-supernatural and 2.) is a human being, (even one who is maximal in every possible human dimension), then what is the explanation?

If I've seen two dragons already fly by, and someone else drop a car into the Feywild through a portal, I am not going to be shaken by some guy doing it through muscle and willpower. Especially when I saw him, a minute prior, jump from the tallest building in the land, land on his face, get up and dust himself off.

DnD world residents are just built different.

 

[mamba]

I'm not a human from Earth, I'm a human from Eberron or Greyhawk or any of these places where griffins are a naturally-occurring animal.

you are still a human, just because there is a bit of difference in fauna does not change that

 

[Raiztt]

If I've seen two dragons already fly by, and someone else toss a car into the Feywild through a portal, I am not going to be shaken by some guy doing it through muscle and willpower. Especially when I saw him jump from the tallest building in the land, land on his face, get up and dust himself off.

That isn't answering my question. I'm not asking for your perspective or whether or not it's 'shocking'; I'm asking for an explanation for how that event actually happens.

I'm asking for the same sort of explanation you'd give if I asked, 'how does photosynthesis work'.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Just as a reminder:

 

[Raiztt]

And what section covers the capacities for Earth humans?

I mean, I assume you went to high school and have a basic education in human biology but based on your comments who knows.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

I'm asking for the same sort of explanation you'd give if I asked, 'how does photosynthesis work'.

'because that's just how the organism is built'

The human Fighter is clearly doing these things, supported by the rules, that look like great big feats to us. Clearly, their body is built for it, and even more impressive feats.

 

[Vaalingrade]

you are still a human, just because there is a bit of difference in fauna does not change that

The difference in the fauna is a difference in the conditions of the planet. A tiny shift in oxygen percentage let insects grow as big as a car and the titanoboa to be the size of a school bus.

This is the kind of lack of understanding of the real world that instantly indicts 'verisimilitude' in D&D.