D&D 5E What are the "True Issues" with 5e?

[mamba]

Because the designers would rather include things that most players would actually use, like more subclasses and spells, rather that niche rules that most tables would never use. Books have limited space, you can't include everything.

We are talking about what? a handful of pages? There is easily room for that, they can shave a lot more off by being more concise if they wanted to. The larger font of the new version will take up more pages than this.

 

[mamba]

A $50 book ths does everything that 95% want...? Sounds like a pretty good deal. WotC cannot make a book thst does every for everyone, that's just not possible.

that does not follow from my statement....

 

[mamba]

It doesn't though. Page count isn't free. Including the rules you want either means adding more pages, and increasing the cost, or not including other rules, that are more popular and will be used by more players. Adding the rules you want, actually makes it worse for me, and lots of other players.

they just raised the price already, and as I wrote, we are not talking about a lot of pages here. If they make more concise rules, which is a benefit already, they easily find the room

 

[Parmandur]

that does not follow from my statement....

Yet it does: SotC cannot accommodate every possible idea thst some fraction of players might conceivably use. This thread is honestly the first time in a near-decade of release thst I've even seen the matter brought up, and this is a venue where weird niche complaints get aired all the time.

 

[codo]

We are talking about what? a handful of pages? There is easily room for that, they can shave a lot more off by being more concise if they wanted to. The larger font of the new version will take up more pages than this.

I am getting older, and my eyes aren't what they used to be. I would get a lot more out of making the books easier to read than I would the additional rules you want, and I am certainly not alone in this.

they just raised the price already, and as I wrote, we are not talking about a lot of pages here. If they make more concise rules, which is a benefit already, they easily find the room

Why use the extra space for niche rules that most groups will never want or use, when you could use that space for another couple of
sub-classes?

 

[mamba]

Yet it does:

no, it absolutely does not. Just because 5% miss some rules, doesn't mean the other 95% have all the rules they want and need. They can absolutely miss other rules or not like rules that are in the book. All it means is that those 95% do not miss these particular rules

 

[mamba]

I am getting older, and my eyes aren't what they used to be. I would get a lot more out of making the books easier to read than I would the additional rules you want, and I am certainly not alone in this.

that is a distinct possibility, at no point did I say that everyone would benefit from the rules

Why use the extra space for niche rules that most groups will never want or use, when you could use that space for another couple of
sub-classes?

we have enough of those, there will be another Xanathar soon enough too. If they put the rules in a different book, that is fine too, it is not having them that I am objecting to

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Why use the extra space for niche rules that most groups will never want or use, when you could use that space for another couple of
sub-classes?

Realistically? Because that's never going to be the trade-off.

 

[nevin]

I am getting older, and my eyes aren't what they used to be. I would get a lot more out of making the books easier to read than I would the additional rules you want, and I am certainly not alone in this.


Why use the extra space for niche rules that most groups will never want or use, when you could use that space for another couple of
sub-classes?

because the sub classes are content for another partially filled book down the road....

 

[Parmandur]

no, it absolutely does not. Just because 5% miss some rules, doesn't mean the other 95% have all the rules they want and need. They can absolutely miss other rules or not like rules that are in the book. All it means is that those 95% do not miss these particular rules

That's just not how this works: sure, a fe different groups of outlier 5% might be missing thisnor that...but WotC not only doesn't have to service every niche, they cannot. By getting king the majority of what a majority wants in order to play, they are doing their job. And they are the ones in a position to know what people are actually using or asking for.