What do you think of Modrons?

What are your feelings towards Modrons?

  • I like them or am positively predisposed to them.

    Votes: 170 64.6%
  • i dislike them or am negatively predisposed to them.

    Votes: 64 24.3%
  • I don't care but I'm polling anyway.

    Votes: 29 11.0%


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*sigh* Of poll voters, those who like modrons outnumber those who don't by a factor of nearly four. I expected modron lovers to mobilize, but I never expected that much support.

I'm terribly disappointed. And will be for the next five minutes, after which I'll promptly forget what I was thinking about.
 


victorysaber said:
Modrons remind me of... Spock.

They have so much potential for the "emotionless machine who learns to love" subplot cliché.

There, fixed that for you.

Modrons highlight everything I hate about how outsiders are treated in D&D. Outsiders are supposed to be exemplars of their alignments, that's why they have subtypes such as Good, Evil, Law, Chaos. Something with the Law subtype is essentially a being of law, just as something with the Fire subtype is a being of fire. If a Law being ceases to be a being of Law (e.g. a modron becoming a chaotic individual) then it should cease to exist as a modron. I'd say it transforms into some chaotic outsider, much the same way devils are fallen angels in a lot of literature. A "good" demon is no longer a demon; it should either cease to exist or transform into a celestial being.
 

lukelightning said:
There, fixed that for you.

Modrons highlight everything I hate about how outsiders are treated in D&D. Outsiders are supposed to be exemplars of their alignments, that's why they have subtypes such as Good, Evil, Law, Chaos. Something with the Law subtype is essentially a being of law, just as something with the Fire subtype is a being of fire. If a Law being ceases to be a being of Law (e.g. a modron becoming a chaotic individual) then it should cease to exist as a modron. I'd say it transforms into some chaotic outsider, much the same way devils are fallen angels in a lot of literature. A "good" demon is no longer a demon; it should either cease to exist or transform into a celestial being.
This is a wonderful idea for a subrace or anti-race of modrons inhabiting Limbo alongside Slaadi, or another mostly chaos based plane. The realm is angular and irregularly built, with obtuse angles, zig-zags, and fractal-like designs. These anti-modrons may have bent, irregular, or somewhat randomly shifted forms (but still approximate the previous ideals).
 

lukelightning said:
Modrons highlight everything I hate about how outsiders are treated in D&D. Outsiders are supposed to be exemplars of their alignments, that's why they have subtypes such as Good, Evil, Law, Chaos. Something with the Law subtype is essentially a being of law, just as something with the Fire subtype is a being of fire. If a Law being ceases to be a being of Law (e.g. a modron becoming a chaotic individual) then it should cease to exist as a modron. I'd say it transforms into some chaotic outsider, much the same way devils are fallen angels in a lot of literature.
But... they're constructs, not outsiders... (Did I miss something here?)
 



Arnwyn said:
But... they're constructs, not outsiders... (Did I miss something here?)

Depends on if you use the dragon article or the Manual of the Planes Web Enhancement.

From the 1e MMII descriptions I'd go with outsider over construct.
 

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