What exactly makes the Greyhawk Campaign Setting

[haakon1]

some of us despise the Greyhack stuff after 1984 too.

there was no Greyhack War in true Greyhawk

Here here! But most post-1998 stuff is alright. The Dark Ages are really 1984-1998.

 

[haakon1]

Whatever happened to him (her)? Screed was probably the most infuriating . . . and interesting poster on the old AOL Greyhawk boards. Always worth reading.

Agreed. Iquander (Erik Mona) was also awesome, of course.

But that was long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

 

[haakon1]

Because they hate change.

Especially change with no respect . . . what's the deal with taking the single biggest thing for the PC's in the whole campaign -- Against the Giants/Drow series -- and saying, "Well, offline, the PC's must have lost, because the giants won the war". Excuse me?!

That's like when 2nd Edition PHB came out, while I was playing a half-orc assassin. For Political Correctness/mom-friendliness reasons, both half-orcs and assassins were removed as player options in the new edition. You're BANNING my character? What gives you the right?

So, that's when I stopped buying anything from TSR until 1998, when they revived Greyhawk with a little disrespect.

Long-live Gygax, long-live WOTC, down with Lorraine Williams, From the As*es, and 2nd Edition!

 

[M.L. Martin]

Greyhawk by EGG has a strong "Good isn't really Good - Neutrality is better" theme, and the squabbling 'good' powers support this. EGG's heroes are Neutrals like Mordenkainen & Gord, Good is presented as shallow, rigid & up-its-own-a**, I think this derives from EGG being a lapsed Catholic while defining Greyhawk 'Good' more in Catholic terms rather than post-Enlightenment terms. Evil powers fighting each other rather than being monolithic, and often making deals with non-evil powers, is also a Greyhawk theme, yup.

I thought Gygax was a Jehovah's Witness?

And this seems to be a common trend in 'traditional' D&D worlds overall--it's quite pervasive in Dragonlance, and I think it may even show up in FR and Planescape.

It's one of the reasons I favor Ravenloft.

Matthew L. Martin

 

[Nellisir]

Agreed. Iquander (Erik Mona) was also awesome, of course.

And QSam, and Aria13....

But that was long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

No kidding.

Cheers,
Nell.

 

[Garnfellow]

And QSam, and Aria13....

Didn't they turn out to be the same poster? I seem to remember a hullabaloo or two over that right before I left AOL.

We should stage a reunion thread or something . . . it would be neat to see what happened to that gang.

 

[M.L. Martin]

We should stage a reunion thread or something . . . it would be neat to see what happened to that gang.

I can't shake the feeling that NiteScreed spontaneously combusted with the release of 3rd Edition.

Matthew L. Martin, who lurked on the AOL GH board despite having little to no interest in the setting. I was there for the soap opera.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

I can't shake the feeling that NiteScreed spontaneously combusted with the release of 3rd Edition.

He actually showed up recently over on the WotC Board's Greyhawk forum a few months ago for a brief period.

 

[Nellisir]

He [Nitescreed] actually showed up recently over on the WotC Board's Greyhawk forum a few months ago for a brief period.

Canonfire, also. Basically yanked a few shorts and left. Good ol' Nitescreed.

Didn't they [Aria13 & QSamantha] turn out to be the same poster? I seem to remember a hullabaloo or two over that right before I left AOL.

I dunno. I always got the feeling there was a joke in there I wasn't a part of. And it's potentially evidence that Roger Moore made them sort of the same person/character in "The Adventure Begins". (I got to be a captain of the watch - yay me!)

QSam turned up over on the Paizo boards a few months ago -- maybe coincidence, maybe not.

I just decided not to care. If QSam, Aria, and Screed are all the same person, then kudos to h/im/er. They outposted everyone on that board by about 10. And they were cool, fun, intelligent people.

Cheers,
Nell.

 

[S'mon]

Huh, ya learn something new everyday. I didn't realize Gygax was a lapsed Catholic. Tolkien, on the other hand, was quite unlapsed as I understand it, and C.S. Lewis was a super-serious convert. Not sure what that means . . . other than Mel Gibson rocks!

Yes, Tolkien was a serious Catholic and CS Lewis was a lapsed Ulster Protestant who later became a serious Catholic, hence his works are the most overtly religious of any children's fantasy I know.