What happens if we don't like it?


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Greg K said:
I wish before buying 4e, people would actually take time to look through it at a book store or game store. If they like what they see, buy it. If they don't like what they see, leave it on the shelf.

Wizards doesn't like that idea AT ALL.



Just buy buy it, kiddies.
 


The best fix is to abandon apostascy and pick up some AD&D books, (PHB, MM & DMG) all for less than the cost of the 4e PHB. Try the old game with your group. Fix the stuff you don't like in AD&D. It's outstanding with a good DM.

If you really need for your game to be in print, Castles & Crusades is well worth looking at. It will play fast and clean and you can do pretty much anything you like with it, too.


By going Old-School, you'll never allow WotC to bend you over, like they have again. Of course if you like getting bent over, well each to their own. In oh, four to six years, this will happen again...if not sooner.
 





I don't know what would happen if we really all don't like it, but face it:
There have been 3+ versions of the game, and each one was successful so far. I don't think D&D 4th edition will be radically different here.
The guys making the games always were fans of it. The only change I see is that the guys making it are also getting better at it, because there is more experience and research involved in it.

And honestly, I didn't like D&D very much when I started playing it.
My first game was Shadowrun 3rd edition. When I entered my current group, they did also play Shadowrun, but they just started with D&D 3rd edition.
My first character was a sorcerer..
"What, I can only cast a limited amount of spells per day?" (Competend Shadowrun mages could cast all day long, because reduced drain was pretty easy)
"Hit points? That's totally unrealistic!" (I didn't know the difference between realism, verisimilitude, cinematic and whatever else then. The Shadowrun system seemed pretty good, with its damage codes and only 10 wound points for everyone...)
"Classes? So I can't take any skill I want?"

Still, 'till this day, D&D 3.x is my favorite game. I enjoyed other games too, but D&D or at least D20 is a system I like to go back every time. I know how it works, and mostly I also know why it works that way (thanks to all the design diaries, supplements and personal experience with it). Since the guys that are making D&D 4 known D&D 3 and build their game system from the experiences with it, how can it not become something I will like, too?
 

pawsplay said:
I mean, what if 4e is not considered a critical success and does not fully supplant 3.5 in popularity?

WOTC limps along (perhaps being sold off) and a major update (4.5e or 5e) gets released in 2011. WOTC blames the OGL (not without reason, since it would have to be a major factor in any likely scenario where 3.5e remains dominant) and swears off any further support for open gaming.
 

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