5.5E What if you were in charge of reworking classes for 5.5?

Mercurius

Legend
Without having read the thread....

Re-work the ranger, paladin, and bard to be non-spellcasters, but with powers that are spell-like, but distinct from the respective spellcasting classes.

I know that is already true to some extent, and unlikely to happen except through sub-classes, but I think it would make those classes more distinct, rather than "a fighter with a bit of cleric" (paladin) or "a rogue with a bit of wizard" (bard). Those things can be generated through multiclassing - the idea being, to really make the archetype of each class more distinct.

For the ranger, use the Aragorn archetype as the base, then double-down on a nature warrior who eventually becomes a primally-infused champion of the natural world.

For the bard, focus on the idea of "song magic" - that music itself is arcane, and every magical effect a bard can do comes through music. Maybe even incorporate concepts like the music of the spheres, mantra, etc.

For the paladin, obviously the holy warrior - the champion of a god or ethos. But like the others, differentiate it more from cleric.
 

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HammerMan

Legend
Make the fighter a mix of 4e slayer and 4e warlord. Make champion it’s own class. Break up mage into smaller buys no one of them getting all the spells.

Bring 2e spheres back (even if we keep domain name) so clerics don’t get all the spells either.

Edit: maybe make druids more like warlocks so they don’t get all the spells either


I mean make everyone warlocks works too. 2 subclass mix and match and mini feats. But at that point I just want 4 e classes
 

Horwath

Hero
Make the fighter a mix of 4e slayer and 4e warlord. Make champion it’s own class. Break up mage into smaller buys no one of them getting all the spells.

Bring 2e spheres back (even if we keep domain name) so clerics don’t get all the spells either.

Edit: maybe make druids more like warlocks so they don’t get all the spells either


I mean make everyone warlocks works too. 2 subclass mix and match and mini feats. But at that point I just want 4 e classes
I wizard is too strong then sorcerer can be good base with subclasses giving 2 spells each level from cantrip to 5th level.
 


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