D&D General What is appropriate Ranger Magic

[James Gasik]

I was one of the few who liked the idea (if not the precise execution) of the Warlock being a half-caster with limited ability to cast higher level spells. I think this is probably the way to do a half-caster.

You get all the low level utility spells and have a limited use of effects relevant to a tier-appropriate encounter.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

Personally the three halfcasters are my favourite classes

Yeah the half-casters are by far my favorite classes, and I wish there were more of them.

So seeing people want to remove the half-casters makes me sad.

 

[Frozen_Heart]

I was one of the few who liked the idea (if not the precise execution) of the Warlock being a half-caster with limited ability to cast higher level spells. I think this is probably the way to do a half-caster.

You get all the low level utility spells and have a limited use of effects relevant to a tier-appropriate encounter.

I feel that the 5e warlock is just trying to be too many things at once, and the half-caster playtest warlock made this even more clear. Half the fanbase wants a blaster full caster for their warlock, while the other half wants an arcane gish.

The result is a mess.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Theoretically, if ranger did become a pure martial, what class should replace it as a primal half-caster?

Keep it full martial by default, but allow subclasses that grant spellcasting.

I cribbed that idea from somewhere...I'll let you know when I remember.

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

In the sense of a new class or retooling one of the existing 13?

Ive seen suggestion the artificer should be taken in both directions, martial and fullcaster

Personally the three halfcasters are my favourite classes

I think that if the ranger was to be the martial wild hunter, I'd give the primal half-casting to the class that's already using primal magic to boost its martial skills: the barbarian. Going back to the 4e Warden. Of course it would need some retailing, but nothing too bad I think.

 

[Horwath]

I think that if the ranger was to be the martial wild hunter, I'd give the primal half-casting to the class that's already using primal magic to boost its martial skills: the barbarian. Going back to the 4e Warden. Of course it would need some retailing, but nothing too bad I think.

halfcasting would work best as a subclass.
ranger, paladin, artificer, rogue, fighter, barbarian; all could have a half-casting subclass. WITH CANTRIPS!

 

[CreamCloud0]

I think that if the ranger was to be the martial wild hunter, I'd give the primal half-casting to the class that's already using primal magic to boost its martial skills: the barbarian. Going back to the 4e Warden. Of course it would need some retailing, but nothing too bad I think.

I think the barb only makes sense as the primal HC if you ARE removing ranger from the equation, then again I don’t really like barb and would chop it up between fighter, monk and druid so maybe I’m biased

Personally I’d make the monk the primal HC

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

I think the barb only makes sense as the primal HC if you’re removing ranger from the equation, then again I don’t really like barb and would chop it up better fighter, monk and druid so maybe I’m biased

Personally I’d make the monk the primal HC

Some kind of elemental bender as a monk redux would be awesome and a nice innovation, in addition to removing the passé kung-fu trope.

You could even imbue your martial art with animalistic traits!

Man, that's a cool idea!

 

[Minigiant]

Keep it full martial by default, but allow subclasses that grant spellcasting.

I cribbed that idea from somewhere...I'll let you know when I remember.

Doesn't work.

Subclasses are 1/3rd caster in 5e.

 

[Horwath]

Doesn't work.

Subclasses are 1/3rd caster in 5e.

they should have been done as 1/2 caster.