What is it like to be Undead?

Henry said:
Most sentient undead I think have a very similar experience, with minor variations.

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That's what I picture undeath as - a state of unease for eternity.

I've always thought of sentient undead as existing in a state of perpetual, very slight but noticeable discomfort (I described it to someone once as having an itch you can't touch, scratch or affect in any way), which is one reason why undead are often very pissed. But you put it so much better than I ever did.

*applauds*
 

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For ghasts, ghouls, and vampires (and other fairly intelligent undead) I see most of them existing in a state similar to Henry's explanation with something additional: hunger.

Hunger drives a ghoul, and it's never truly satisfied. A deep body-aching hunger that cannot stop, even when your mouth is full of rich, red meat. The fleeting feeling of satisfaction that Henry mentioned, which drives them to consume and consume.

A vampire, well, there are tons of different takes on vampires. Go read seven or eight vampire novels and form a rough idea from that, I'd say. For the most common D&D vampire is going to be the vampire spawn, and they're mostly like ghouls save they hunger for blood.

Your major vamipre lord, though, he's looking not for blood but for life force. The yawning void inside him wants to be filled and it will not be denied, even if he doesn't want to feed. He will do so, eventually, and that probably drives most of them mad. Or they may just like killing, the ending of life. It gives them a rush of some kind. (Notice how most of this comes back to some form of pleasure?)

For the intelligent undead, many of them will remember their former life. Some may remember it vividly, or if they've lived long enough it might be just a fleeting memory. Some ghouls might become complete animals, while others may retain little bits and chunks of memory. Vamires will probably retain most of it, and may indeed be able to continue on with their old lives if conditions are right. Liches certainly do: there's little point to becoming a lich if you forget things.

For the mindless undead, I think of their spirit being trapped in there though I'm pretty sure the MM says that nothing is there anymore, just an animating Negative force that is like a vacuum: it seeks to fill itself with positive energy and thus it seeks out the living. Since they can't energy drain, though, that void is never filled and so the vessel goes on trying to fill itself. The horrific relentlessness of the shambling zombies in Night of the Living Dead should be the guide here. There is no mind, no caring: it's just a machine on two feet that exists to eat.

Incoporeal undead must have a very bizarre existance. I think Henry's 'need to feel something' idea works best with them, since they've lost the most. Wraiths and specrres especially.
 

I always like that part of Interview with a Vampire where the one dood becomes a vampire and looks around for the first time and it shows things through his eyes....
 

Well, I was going to comment...but it seems between Henry and WayneLigon, they sorta hit everything I was going to say...so my only addition would be remember rule 0.

You can always make an intelligent zombie if you want...it may just be even more terrifying. Libris Mortis is a great read, if nothing else. And it should give you more than enough ideas.
 

Funeris said:
Well, I was going to comment...but it seems between Henry and WayneLigon, they sorta hit everything I was going to say...so my only addition would be remember rule 0.

You can always make an intelligent zombie if you want...it may just be even more terrifying. Libris Mortis is a great read, if nothing else. And it should give you more than enough ideas.

I once used a juju zombie as a captain of a shipwreck. It was for a storyline from "John Carpenter's The Fog". It turned out well.

Wayneligon, the game still has the aspect of Animate Dead binds the soul to the body since Raise Dead doesn't work on an undead and Resurrection can once the body is destroyed.

Good thread, thanks.
 
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I think that for intelligent corporeal undead there would be a growing sense of detachment from society. Generations would go by and known friends would die and the world would move on but not for the undead. All the luxeries that people enjoy such as meals, sex, and sleep would be denied or diminished; Perhaps plays and music might still be of comfort or induce deep melancholy. What would the undead think of the living that enjoy these things still? Would they envy or hate them - seek to ignore them?

I don't think that even the strongest willed man could resist changing in personality as the centuries pass. Maybe the Lich had noble intentions initially but as a millenia approaches his oaths seem more and more to belong to another man long ago.
 

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