D&D General what is the worst race in dnd?

[Mind of tempest]

The saddest part was this was an opportunity to make a Kalashar core, thus adding an interesting Human to the core game.

the thing I hate most about kalashar is that they keep trying for the psionic human subspecies that just does not work in dnd and most fiction as elves are already master race making them a type of specially bred human would just make it worse for everyone in one go.

 

[Li Shenron]

what is the worst, most stupid, most idiotic race to ever be made, official or homebrew?

Half-Orcs with a specific criminal explanation of their existence.

 

[Vaalingrade]

the thing I hate most about kalashar is that they keep trying for the psionic human subspecies that just does not work in dnd and most fiction as elves are already master race making them a type of specially bred human would just make it worse for everyone in one go.

Specially bred by elves then?

 

[Mecheon]

The saddest part was this was an opportunity to make a Kalashar core, thus adding an interesting Human to the core game.

I would not call Kalashtar interesting, and this is coming from someone who's favourite RP character on Twitch at the moment is a Kalashtar. They're the boring option of the Ebberon 4. Not bad by any means, just, don't really have much to 'em. And this is even when I have spent countless Twitch points on 'make vague Quori noises/emotions to impact the current RP'

Shardminds got an always good concept to 'em (Crystal folks who can split and merge together)

I remember ignoring Bladelings and dismissing them as a stupid imp thing rather than a race…

Bladelings been around since 2E IIRC, just back then they were "Weird planer folks". I love 4E's lore for them as "Loyal living weapons who a certain war god later discarded once he got his hand on hobgoblins to use as a new army"

 

[cwallach]

Kender is the worst race as D&D is a team game and Kender disrupt that.

 

[Vaalingrade]

I would not call Kalashtar interesting, and this is coming from someone who's favourite RP character on Twitch at the moment is a Kalashtar. They're the boring option of the Ebberon 4. Not bad by any means, just, don't really have much to 'em. And this is even when I have spent countless Twitch points on 'make vague Quori noises/emotions to impact the current RP'

I'm saying compared to D&D 'We are all Vin Diesel on meth' always action hero humans.

 

[Greenstone.Walker]

Drow, for attracting all the edgelords.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Man, so many choices! Kender, tinker gnomes, gully dwarves, that weird monkey race from Spelljammer, can't forget nilbogs ...

I do think Krynn wins the race to the bottom, though.

 

[payn]

Drow, for attracting all the edgelords.

The Drow noble was especially awful during 3E.

 

[Alzrius]

Drow, for attracting all the edgelords.

Tieflings fill that niche now.

That said, I'll personally vote for dragonborn. Not the 3.5e version, which had a very specific explanation for what they were and where they came from, but the more generic 4E and 5E versions. They don't seem to have anything going for them beyond some sort of aesthetic about being "dragon people," which unto itself I've never seen the appeal of.

 

[Redwizard007]

Well, if I can choose 2, then Gully Dwarves.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Tieflings fill that niche now.

That said, I'll personally vote for dragonborn. Not the 3.5e version, which had a very specific explanation for what they were and where they came from, but the more generic 4E and 5E versions. They don't seem to have anything going for them beyond some sort of aesthetic about being "dragon people," which unto itself I've never seen the appeal of.

Believe me, they don't fulfill the dragon people aesthetic either, and I see all the appeal of. How we got scaly, tailless, wingless dwarves from the cat-based dragons of 3-4e, I will never know.

 

[Mecheon]

The latest Warcraft expansion is all about dragons and dragon people, so there’s appeal there

Mind one of the bigger complaints is the playable race is some new winged flying dragon people rather than the giant Dragonborn looking Draknoids

I’d argue Dragonborn are the last in a line starting from Draconians and Dragonkin in earlier editions. Mind, they should have tails

 

[Zardnaar]

You know it's bad when Drow are not the worst race.

 

[Orius]

I'll agree that kender aren't the problem, the players are. Even Tas shows character growth in the novels.

Gully dwarves are an inexplicably bad choice for a PC race. Too many disadvantages and ... wait do they even have an advantage? As NPCs, they're fine.

It depends on the edition too. I'd say half-orcs are the worst in 1e given the class restrictions on them. Get to 3e, and the worst of the core is half-elf playing the role of the poor man's human. A big step down from AD&D where they had a good deal of versatility from their multiclass options.

I'm not a fan of dragonborn either. As much as like to keep mocking the dragonboobs silliness from early 4e, the real problem is that WotC put too much background flavor into them. That's a running problem I have with WotC material, they put too much specific background stuff into things rather than leaving things open ended enough for a DM to customize things.

Optional races can be hit or miss. There's a lot of junk from 3e, and raptorans are near the top (Races of the Dragon was one of 3e's lowest point anyway). Most of the new stuff they made in 3e gets a meh from me at best, and only legacy material has much interest.

 

[Zardnaar]

I'll agree that kender aren't the problem, the players are. Even Tas shows character growth in the novels.

Gully dwarves are an inexplicably bad choice for a PC race. Too many disadvantages and ... wait do they even have an advantage? As NPCs, they're fine.

It depends on the edition too. I'd say half-orcs are the worst in 1e given the class restrictions on them. Get to 3e, and the worst of the core is half-elf playing the role of the poor man's human. A big step down from AD&D where they had a good deal of versatility from their multiclass options.

I'm not a fan of dragonborn either. As much as like to keep mocking the dragonboobs silliness from early 4e, the real problem is that WotC put too much background flavor into them. That's a running problem I have with WotC material, they put too much specific background stuff into things rather than leaving things open ended enough for a DM to customize things.

Optional races can be hit or miss. There's a lot of junk from 3e, and raptorans are near the top (Races of the Dragon was one of 3e's lowest point anyway). Most of the new stuff they made in 3e gets a meh from me at best, and only legacy material has much interest.

3E splat is fairly bad. 3E fluff is quite good eg FR, Draconomicon, Out of the Abyss etc.

 

[Vaalingrade]

You know it's bad when Drow are not the worst race.

Not even the worst problematic race as they are likely the result of a cocktail of ignorance while the gully dwarf was 100% on purpose.

 

[Zardnaar]

Not even the worst problematic race as they are likely the result of a cocktail of ignorance while the gully dwarf was 100% on purpose.

Krynn races in general. Never liked it as a setting the novels aren't that good either.

 

[James Gasik]

Krynn races in general. Never liked it as a setting the novels aren't that good either.

Oh yeah, I mean, they have Walrus-men. Is there anyone who ever said to themselves, "man, I wish I could play an anthropomorphic Walrus in D&D"?

 

[Zardnaar]

Oh yeah, I mean, they have Walrus-men. Is there anyone who ever said to themselves, "man, I wish I could play an anthropomorphic Walrus in D&D"?

I don't mind anthromorphic races if done well. Eg built from ground up, Egyptian themed etc.

But yeah it's just more stupid Krynnisms.