What should I play?

[Shazman]

My gaming group is about to start the Age of Worms campaign. We are using a 25 point buy, and basically the PHB for charater creation at this point. There will be four of us. One is playing a paladin. Another is playing a cleric. That leaves me and the other guy who have yet to choose. He does tend to favor spellcasters. The question is what should I play? A straight rogue or a rogue that will pick up a level of fighter, ranger or barbarian for more combat usefullness (the on thing I don't like about rogues is being practically useless against undead and constructs.) What do you all think?

 

[smootrk]

If there is a Paladin and a Cleric in your party, I do not think you need to worry about undead much.
My preference in this situation: a straight wizard with high INT. If your party is lacking a rogue, can take some cross class skills to help out (or take a level or two of rogue).

edit: I misread, your friend likes spell casters. Take a rogue with fighter or ranger levels.

 

[Goolpsy]

Well, you could just take a normal rogue without multiclassing.. the Paladin can certainly work as the meatshield... no need for one more

 

[Nifft]

Do you have to be a Rogue, or could you be a Druid?

-- N

 

[blargney the second]

Bard! They're the best AND the most fun!
-blarg

 

[Magonus]

Normally I'd agree with blargney and say bard, but since you already look to have 2.5 spellcasters in the group, I'd say a scout. You'll have a little more room to customize and be a bit more handy in a fight.

 

[Bad Paper]

The question is what should I play?

Whatever you like, silly.

 

[The Souljourner]

Bards are really rough with 25 point buy. I love bards, but I don't think I could manage one on 25 points. 30 points is probably my limit for bards. Then again, that poor paladin player... good lord.

Rogues are cool. I actually like pure rogue over rogue/fighter, because a rogue's sneak attack is *everything*... they're kinda like spellcasters in that way. Ok, not quite so bad, but still....

However, if you want an interesting party, take a ranger. You can still be a scout and get plenty of skills, but locked doors become a lot more interesting. "Ok, I guess we have to bash this one down too. On 3..."

-The Souljourner

 

[two]

Bards are really rough with 25 point buy. I love bards, but I don't think I could manage one on 25 points. 30 points is probably my limit for bards. Then again, that poor paladin player... good lord.

Rogues are cool. I actually like pure rogue over rogue/fighter, because a rogue's sneak attack is *everything*... they're kinda like spellcasters in that way. Ok, not quite so bad, but still....

However, if you want an interesting party, take a ranger. You can still be a scout and get plenty of skills, but locked doors become a lot more interesting. "Ok, I guess we have to bash this one down too. On 3..."

-The Souljourner

Peh. Bards are really OK on 25 points buy. Your spell DC's will be moderate, not higher, so most of your spells should be self/other buff. That's a perfectly reasonable way to choose spells. Unless you play an "enchanter" bard (in which case your will be blowing all your feats on spell focus (enchantment) etc. and etc.) your spell DC's don't have to match those of the primary spell caster.

Something like Str=14, Con=14, Dex=14, Wis=9, Int=8, Ch = 14 makes for good ranged, OK melee, and enough charisma for skills and spellcasting until 10+ levels.

Really, the only thing you miss out on are a few skill points via int. Oh well. Can't have everything. Just play a human bard, you still will get 6 skill points per level.

Slap some +4 to a stat items on that 25 point build and he's looking faily rugged by level 5/10/15/20.

 

[RandomPrecision]

Something that came to mind, despite it's rarity, was Rogue/Barbarian, emphasis on the Rogue. You'll have faster movement and a larger hit die, even though raging and sneaking are a pretty bad mix. I wouldn't bother raging at all though. I just like having more than one meat shield, but that's purely personal preference. Someone else brought up the Scout class, which might not be bad. If you're feeling adventurous, you could try a Rogue/Scout and let us know how it works out...there's a lot of superfluity, but skirmish/sneak attack might not be that bad of a combination. And I don't know what classes are available to you, but something like the Ninja might not be bad.

Just pick something, there's no wrong answer. You don't even have to be rogue-based, for that matter, although that will probably aid the party best.