What's the big deal about gnomes not being in the PHB? **Edited for adversarial tone*

[JDJblatherings]

Well, they were a staple from 1st edition.
Even before then they were referred too in the old red box set.
Sort of sad to see them go

Red box set came out -after- 1st edition PHB.

 

[Doug McCrae]

1. It doesn't take many people to make a hubbub.
2. I've seen lots and lots of people saying "If wizards get at will abilities it's not D&D". And a few lamenting the loss of the druid.
3. Hussar's poll in the general forum showed that gnomes are the 2nd least popular race, the half-orc being least popular.

 

[WhimsyTheFae]

I've read studies that it takes two people to make a hubbub, but someone once told me that he made a hubbub all by himself, once. I didn't believe him. Personally, I think that it requires at least three people to make a hubbub...at least it does if you want your hubbub to be noticed.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I would disagree these aren't controversial or no one is causing a ruckus. The loss of Vanacian magic and alignment and Druids has caused some noise, as well as TWF/Finesse.

They're just not being made into their own threads.

The implications of non-vancian magic and removing (a large part) of the attrition-based balancing mechanics of D&D where a large topic. It was mostly concentrated on one thread.

But it was discussed, in great detail. But it's no longer the "topic of the hour".

 

[Rechan]

The implications of non-vancian magic and removing (a large part) of the attrition-based balancing mechanics of D&D where a large topic. It was mostly concentrated on one thread.

But it was discussed, in great detail. But it's no longer the "topic of the hour".

Agreed.

I mean, that was in August, which was YEARS ago, am I rite?

 

[PeterWeller]

Some of it also can be from Gnomes becoming sort of the "rallying cry" for the people who are dissatisfied with 4E. There are people who will latch on to any reason to decry something, even if it really wouldn't matter to them otherwise.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Again, Gnomes in the MM. Written up as PC races.

They're not getting the same amount of space as the PHB races are. It's really not the same.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I would disagree these aren't controversial or no one is causing a ruckus. The loss of Vanacian magic and alignment and Druids has caused some noise, as well as TWF/Finesse.

They're just not being made into their own threads.

Ergo, relatively speaking, they're not as big of a deal to their fans as gnomes are to theirs.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Some of it also can be from Gnomes becoming sort of the "rallying cry" for the people who are dissatisfied with 4E. There are people who will latch on to any reason to decry something, even if it really wouldn't matter to them otherwise.

Find me this person.

The people who are complaining -- instead of saying "eh, don't really care, but it seems stupid to leave them out" -- are very specific about gnomes being their issue.

 

[Vigilance]

What's with all the hub-hub about Gnomes? They're in the MM people. Just use them from there....honestly do they need to be in the PHB? We've been told that we can use them as a playable race from that.

It gives people something to gnash their teeth over, something they (apparently) desperately need.

I mean, it's not as important as the Golden Wyvern Adept disaster-bacle, but NOTHING is.