D&D 4E Where was 4e headed before it was canned?

[Parmandur]

5e creates more bounding boxes ... of absolute sort than 4e ever did it strings them out and puts them behind barriers which make them incomparable.

And yet it is not so in actual play....

 

[Garthanos]

It is an exception based game: just because an ability says something has no bearing on the rest of the game.

Poppy poo I can find a dozen post of yours claiming the opposite. All about why my acrobat cannot reduce the damage of a friends fall except extremely eratically

 

[Parmandur]

I have no experience about level 15 characters at all... its not easier at all keep on digging

I have experience watching Marvel superhero movies, and I dream. Good enough to work with the 5E skill system.

 

[Garthanos]

I have experience watching Marvel superhero movies, and I dream. Good enough to work with the 5E skill system.

you mean the system that basically starts with characters able to standing broad jump 10 foot and ends there?

 

[Parmandur]

Poppy poo I can find a dozen post of yours claiming the opposite. All about why my acrobat cannot reduce the damage of a friends fall except extremely eratically

You mean by rolling? Yes, the game resolves action declarations through rolling.

 

[Parmandur]

you mean the system that basically starts with characters able to standing broad jump 10 foot and ends there?

The game that gives advise on how to adjust genre expectations for.mythic or wuxia genres by changing stuff like jump distances? Yes.

 

[Garthanos]

The game that gives advise on how to adjust genre expectations for.mythic or wuxia genres by changing stuff like jump distances? Yes.

I thought you were going to do it with rolling the dice and microscopic success chances and next to no character advancement. Because you know microscopic character advancement is valuable for some reason EVEN though it is contrary to the tier flavor text.
Tell me how your spell caster is getting more mythic if he is already perfectly feather falling the entire party?

You mean by rolling?

There is rolling there there is Failing again and again and again so it's frustrating when its most needed. Hmmm well next time roll a monk instead of making an acrobat and maybe there is a way you can do it reliably... so you can access those things hiding behind variable resource systems.

 

[Garthanos]

We already have characters doing extremes as characterised by taking out a house sized armored like a tank, sentient beast with nothing more than a piece of metal and physical power. To me the idea that it needs to be somehow a different genre for them to actually own the abilities that implies is kind of ridiculous. Discordant.

 

[Parmandur]

I thought you were going to do it with rolling the dice and microscopic success chances and next to no character advancement. Because you know microscopic character advancement is valuable for some reason EVEN though it is contrary to the tier flavor text.
Tell me how your spell caster is getting more mythic if he is already perfectly feather falling the entire party?

There is rolling there there is Failing again and again and again so it's frustrating when its most needed. Hmmm well next time roll a monk instead of making an acrobat and maybe there is a way you can do it reliably... so you can access those things hiding behind variable resource systems.

I mean, if the role isn't fun for you, sure. It has 90%+ satisfaction across the player base, so it won't change.

 

[Garthanos]

I mean, if the role isn't fun for you

The role of DM in 5e sounds like a pain .... so yeh