White Wolf viciously attacks everyone who roleplays for fun

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It's interesting that people desperate to see insults always seem to find them. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

And by "interesting", I mean "sort of sad".
 

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Nisarg said:
This right now is NOT just outrage, its my victory dance. Its the smoking guns. Its me saying "the prosecution rests its case".
If so, you can't be happy with the jury's verdict :).

Daniel
 

Prosecution rests its case, huh?

:: looks about at the thread ::

Seems that the jury isn't buying it.
 
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What's it about none so blind as those who will not see? In any case...

Nisarg,

I say this in all seriousness - please don't ever buy any products I write for. Ever. While I think that WW is displaying Dumb Marketing Flack with their statement, what's not needed is the kind of possibly crazy ranting I've seen on this thread. It's a hell of a lot more divisive than an easily dismissed marketing bomb.
 

Nisarg, your sig keeps "disappearing" because it only appears on your first post for any given page of postings. Cuts down on the clutter.

ENWorld is a bit more easy-going than RPG.net, but you're not going to find a lot of support for your (ridiculously over-the-top, IMO) axe-grinding here. Your ****-stirring
is kind of entertaining, though. For the moment, anyway.
 

Nisarg said:
Ironically, their D20 products tend not to be very munchkiny, but I've also found them to really suck..IMO...
Best Publisher (Overall)
  • Gold - Green Ronin Publishing
  • Silver - White Wolf
This might now be the audience you want to be singing your victory song to.
 

Nisarg,

Did somebody at WW beat you as a child? Kick your puppy? I'd give anything if petty crap like this was all I had to worry about.

Get over it man. You're over-reacting just a tad.
 
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Stone Dog said:
Prosecution rests its case, huh?

:: looks about at the thread ::

Seems that the jury isn't buying it.

That there would be white-wolf apologists and agents in here to try to defame me is not suprising, its just standard operating procedure.
That there would also be some D20 players saying "who cares", expressing apathy, is not a huge surprise either.

What is interesting is that no one has been able to refute what I have posted: it is there, in the book, marked in stone. How else can it possibly be interpreted?

Even the "official white wolf guy" who came on here to try to do damage control has, as his very best argument, the rather weak statement that the people who wrote it somehow didn't really mean it, implying that they were forced to write it(?).

When they say "don't get lost in the Ivory tower", how else is it to be interpreted than to be saying "White Wolf=ivory tower, all other games= gutter"?
If they say "please don't deride those who roleplay for fun, or who don't aim higher", what they are implicity stating is that roleplaying for fun is inferior to what WW players are supposed to do (which is obviously NOT roleplay for fun), and that the fun-rpers are inherently at a lower level.
When they say that WW players should "encourage these players to stretch their boundaries" what they are really saying is that people who don't play WW games are inherently ignorant savages who need to be enlightened to the one true way of roleplaying, which is to say, pretentiousness over fun (because remember, fun is NOT what WW players are RPing for).
They've said all this.. this isn't just hateful anti-WW propaganda, this is THEIR OWN WORDS.

Nisarg

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"In 1991, White Wolf Almost Destroyed the Gaming Industry. In 2004, 'Almost' Isn't Going To Cut It."
-ESKemp
 

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