What made you assume they were talking about that line, specifically, and not the other 50-odd lines in your post?
Who’s your vote for the next James Bond?
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payn
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It just reminds me of nearly every American post military turned spy story. A real good guy that just couldnt work within the system, until they were allowed to work alongside it in a special assignment yadda yadda.
Like I said, it works all the time, just doesnt seem very Bond to me.
I mean, when we're 'diagnosing' fictional characters with specific mental disorders from reading a Wikipedia page, it's not really a conversation with any possible conclusion, is it? You're not a doctor, Bond isn't real, and we certainly haven't put him through a strenuous psychological evaluation.
payn
Glory to Marik
No, they just did it in the movies, and ignored the results.I mean, when we're 'diagnosing' fictional characters with specific mental disorders from reading a Wikipedia page, it's not really a conversation with any possible conclusion, is it? You're not a doctor, Bond isn't real, and we certainly haven't put him through a strenuous psychological evaluation.
Mostly because those are the U.K.-specific markers, rather than the rest which is standard government action hero.
Bond has varied a lot in portrayals and of course in the books. As an actual doctor, I’d have said Brosnan Bond was potentially a sociopath, and maybe Connery, but the others don’t show signs of it. Book Bond maybe, but he’s also a very broken and hardened person so it’s hard to tell.
The main thing that I took away from Craig’s portrayal of Bond is he’s a guy with serious abandonment issues. He’s orphaned at a young age, falls in love and has his heart broken, his boss/“surrogate mother” is murdered, discovers his foster father was murdered by his foster brother who now is trying to murder him.
Mercurius
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The thing I loved about Craig's Bond is that he veered from the archetype, making Bond his own, but was still very much Bond. To some extent, every Bond actor did this - but none so divergently as Craig.
The converse is why Brosnan is my least favorite (Well, aside from Lazenby): He was too by-the-book, and a bit boring.
Moore was my childhood favorite: he was Bond when I first started watching Bond films, around 1980, so I imprinted on him as Bond (I think For Your Eyes Only was the first "new" Bond I saw, but I devoured his previous offerings). I didn't like Connery as much until later on, when I learned to appreciate him.
So for me, Connery, Moore, and Craig are a trifecta of Bondsian greatness; Dalton was pretty good; Brosnan meh; Lazenby even meh-er
My hope is that whoever portrays Bond next finds a hybrid of the classic archetype and some new twist or customization.
The converse is why Brosnan is my least favorite (Well, aside from Lazenby): He was too by-the-book, and a bit boring.
Moore was my childhood favorite: he was Bond when I first started watching Bond films, around 1980, so I imprinted on him as Bond (I think For Your Eyes Only was the first "new" Bond I saw, but I devoured his previous offerings). I didn't like Connery as much until later on, when I learned to appreciate him.
So for me, Connery, Moore, and Craig are a trifecta of Bondsian greatness; Dalton was pretty good; Brosnan meh; Lazenby even meh-er
My hope is that whoever portrays Bond next finds a hybrid of the classic archetype and some new twist or customization.
So obviously they were talking about the 99% non-UK specific stuff. Because to selectively pick out the 1% couple of references to the UK and say “that’s very American” would be quite bizarre.
Ruin Explorer
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Too bizarre for the internet though? That'd be about the tenth most bizarre response I've seen to a post this week. And that's ignoring obvious crazy people even.
Also, the whole thing @jian presented was pretty British/EU specific imho, and deeply un-American, and frankly the Reacher comparison was pretty strange anyway, I'm not sure how anything there relates to Reacher apart from "resigning in disgust at a cover up" I guess? But an awful lot of characters have done that.
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