Who "Owns" Old PC's?

jdavis said:
Those are two of the longest post I have ever seen.


I have to say that put a huge grin on my face. :D

I guess I stumbled across someone as anal as myself in standing behind a point and insisting it be comprehended, if not agreed upon. I'm loving it. :)

I liked my "stop driving my car and stealing my character sheet" arguement better. oh wait:rolleyes: that's better, needed the little face.


I liked them too, partially because they were analogies I had considered using myself earlier on. :)

First of all the situation was totally different so now we are talking about a theoretical person with a theoretical background and a theoretical personality. So in theory it's just to hard to say what's going on in his theoretical head.

Ahh, but the theoretical person is the best one to argue over, because it allows SOOOO much latitude from all sides of the arguement (and you don't get some poor guy standing by the wayside lamenting "That's not what I said! It wasn't like that! You people are talking about something entirely different!" LOL (No, I wasn't pointing that at the thread originator, in case he thought so). :) The theoretical guy is good for arguements. :)
 

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hehe, what do you mean? I'm still being nasty!

i understand your viewpoint and agree. however, i have chosen to live my life in a particular manner that is not very congruent with others opinions or perceptions.

as shown above, my real reaction to the situation would be to let the guy have his way (ie. im not really attached to his PC anyway) because it causes him emotional distress.

however, i do think he's hurting himself and i do think he would benefit from trying to understand that he has more control over his emotions that he thinks he does.

With the wife thing, im one of those guys who wouldn't do crap to the other guy. The issues between me and my wife, not anyone else.

You've got a good view about the can/but doesn't have the ability yet arguement and how that appears to be a moot point. but the other aspect of my philosophy organizes itself around the concept that self doesn't ever really die, that all times are present at once, and that all posibility is reality in a continually changin ever-static universe.

it don't make sense and i know it :), but is sure solves those tricky paradoxes!

joe b.
 

I can't believe that I've stayed up till 5 in the morning trying to follow along on why our friend the theoretical D&D player with a strange love for his character, should just let go of all his inner rage and anger because he is just hurting himself, not to mention he should not sleep with other peoples wife's. No wonder Mr. Theoretical Guy is nuts, all he has to hang on to anymore is his character sheet, as he has been wasting his life in useless guilt and anger. Poor guy you just can't take his character sheet away from him now, what if he sets himself on fire. Somebody give Mr. TG a big pat on the back and a hug he's had a hard night.:D

(actually not mocking, well yea I am, but I thoroughly enjoyed the deep conversation in the super titanic postorama.)
 

jdavis said:
I can't believe that I've stayed up till 5 in the morning trying to follow along on why our friend the theoretical D&D player with a strange love for his character, should just let go of all his inner rage and anger because he is just hurting himself, not to mention he should not sleep with other peoples wife's. No wonder Mr. Theoretical Guy is nuts, all he has to hang on to anymore is his character sheet, as he has been wasting his life in useless guilt and anger. Poor guy you just can't take his character sheet away from him now, what if he sets himself on fire. Somebody give Mr. TG a big pat on the back and a hug he's had a hard night.:D

(actually not mocking, well yea I am, but I thoroughly enjoyed the deep conversation in the super titanic postorama.)


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damn, it is late. Im a loser.. :)


My philosophy is not something i usually talk about because, generally, such stuff is of little more value than Theoretical Guy's belly-button lint. But ocassionally, excitement gets the better of me and i pour out some neo-eastern drivel and press "submit reply"

joe b.
 

jgbrowning said:
hehe, what do you mean? I'm still being nasty!


Oh sh*t! Ummm...I mean... Nu-uh! Shut up! Arsehole!Arsehole! (There, did they buy that? *whew!*) *snickers*

i understand your viewpoint and agree. however, i have chosen to live my life in a particular manner that is not very congruent with others opinions or perceptions.


This is understandable. I have philosophies of my own that tend to color the way I react. Most of mine are pretty oddball, too. :)

as shown above, my real reaction to the situation would be to let the guy have his way (ie. im not really attached to his PC anyway) because it causes him emotional distress.

*Nods* So your posted scenareo was basically an opportunity to vent on a theoretical situation that frustrated you in light of your views. Perfectly normal, once understood. :)

however, i do think he's hurting himself and i do think he would benefit from trying to understand that he has more control over his emotions that he thinks he does.


Possibly, but I do think that investing some degree of emotional attachment to a character is an important step is being able to role-play them excellently. You have to identify before you can... step into this other person's shoes. Especially when this other person (and their shoes) are fictional. I can relate to Theoretical Gamer's position, I have characters that are practically sancrosact. Not many, but some. They are versions of myself, altered or distorted mirrors of myself, and they are more than just pretend people to me because of that.

With the wife thing, im one of those guys who wouldn't do crap to the other guy. The issues between me and my wife, not anyone else.


Being a serious non-pacifist myself, I'd likely gut the guy like a fish, and smile all the way to jail (with a fairly decent, and fairly honest, temporay insanity plea readied). :P

You've got a good view about the can/but doesn't have the ability yet arguement and how that appears to be a moot point. but the other aspect of my philosophy organizes itself around the concept that self doesn't ever really die, that all times are present at once, and that all posibility is reality in a continually changin ever-static universe.

it don't make sense and i know it :), but is sure solves those tricky paradoxes!

LOL! Ohhhhh fun. :) Paradoxes are fun, but highly frustrating to someone like myself who doesn't believe in the logic behind them, for the most part. And, while I try to be mostly existential about things on the whole, and blase about the majority of stressors found in everyday life that I cannot effect in the Now, I don't think I could maintain the mental stringency to hold fast to a strong philosophy such as yours. I like to do mental gymnastics, but don't like to maintain them for great lengths of time. Just makes a mind tired, and I've never been extremely strong on the 'dedication to an ideal' thing.
 

jdavis said:
I can't believe that I've stayed up till 5 in the morning trying to follow along on why our friend the theoretical D&D player with a strange love for his character, should just let go of all his inner rage and anger because he is just hurting himself, not to mention he should not sleep with other peoples wife's. No wonder Mr. Theoretical Guy is nuts, all he has to hang on to anymore is his character sheet, as he has been wasting his life in useless guilt and anger. Poor guy you just can't take his character sheet away from him now, what if he sets himself on fire. Somebody give Mr. TG a big pat on the back and a hug he's had a hard night.:D

(actually not mocking, well yea I am, but I thoroughly enjoyed the deep conversation in the super titanic postorama.)

I'd reply, but I'm still laughing my arse off. :)

(And yeah, come on now, we've stayed up just as late blazing the trail you've followed concerning our friend the Theoretical Gamer. We are pathetic. LOL)
 


Lisa Nadazdy said:
Or if you want to have a real world anology, if I were putting on a Bill Shakespeare's Hamlet , and the actor who was playing his part didn't show, I'm not going to put the play on hold just to appease him.


UNDERSTUDIES!

THAT'S WHAT D&D NEEDS!

;)
 



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