Wholesale or Retail

[Willtell]

My psychic warrior could take the feat create psionic arms and armor at 5th lvl. Officially when calculating the worth of the equipment he owns is the wholesale or retail value of the items he created used?.

 

[Leopold]

reatil value for creation of item, wholesale when you are selling it to someone else and they are buying...


although that sounds kinda shafty i think....

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Use 70% of the cost of the item, if you have already made it but never spent XP on it (eg the item was made by the character before you started playing them). If you are spending XP on it, then use 50% of the cost (that's the advantage of taking the Item Creation feats). At least, that's how they design NPCs (NPCs with item creation feats get cheaper and therefore more or better items).

 

[kreynolds]

Use 70% of the cost of the item, if you have already made it but never spent XP on it (eg the item was made by the character before you started playing them). If you are spending XP on it, then use 50% of the cost (that's the advantage of taking the Item Creation feats). At least, that's how they design NPCs (NPCs with item creation feats get cheaper and therefore more or better items).

Bub, bub, bub...uhm...no. By the rules, you charge full price.

 

[kreynolds]

reatil value for creation of item, wholesale when you are selling it to someone else and they are buying...


although that sounds kinda shafty i think....

It's kinda shafty, the selling part anyway. Sometimes the PC will get full price for an item he makes and sells in my games. It just depends on whether or not he can find a buyer willing to spend the cast.

Also, the only time you get half the cost when you sell an item is when you are selling "loot". I don't believe that an item you make should be considered "loot", as you can vouche for it's craftsmanship, young age, yatta, yatta, yatta.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Bub, bub, bub...uhm...no. By the rules, you charge full price.

WRONG!!! See page 47 of the DMG.
"When selecting gear for a spellcaster, count magic items that she can make herself as 70% as expensive as normal. This rule effectively treats the XP cost as an extra gold piece cost."

Got it?

 

[hong]

Bub, bub, bub...uhm...no. By the rules, you charge full price.

WRONG!!! See page 47 of the DMG.
"When selecting gear for a spellcaster, count magic items that she can make herself as 70% as expensive as normal. This rule effectively treats the XP cost as an extra gold piece cost."

Got it?

That rule is only for NPCs. For PCs, you go by what's on p.43: "A PC spellcaster can spend as many of the XP and gp you have awarded toward making magic items as she wishes, provided she has the proper item creation feats and prerequisites". So basically you either buy it for full price, or you make it yourself, and pay the XP cost. The 70% figure doesn't come into it either way.

 

[kreynolds]

Bub, bub, bub...uhm...no. By the rules, you charge full price.

WRONG!!! See page 47 of the DMG.
"When selecting gear for a spellcaster, count magic items that she can make herself as 70% as expensive as normal. This rule effectively treats the XP cost as an extra gold piece cost."

Got it?

How's that foot of yours taste? Some DMs play it your way, and I don't have any real beef with that, but it's not the rules. That's all I'm sayin'.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Some DMs play it your way, and I don't have any real beef with that, but it's not the rules.

You mean to tell me that the DMG is not considered rules? We're supposed to ignore the rules in the DMG? I think I'll ignore the rules in the DMG too, then. I'll make Vorpal Weapons cost only +1, and make them more common in rolled treasure, since the DMG is only a bunch of suggestions.

 

[kreynolds]

Some DMs play it your way, and I don't have any real beef with that, but it's not the rules.

You mean to tell me that the DMG is not considered rules? We're supposed to ignore the rules in the DMG? I think I'll ignore the rules in the DMG too, then. I'll make Vorpal Weapons cost only +1, and make them more common in rolled treasure, since the DMG is only a bunch of suggestions.

Whatever. *shrug*