Why are you still here?

why am I still here?

Humor. Piratecat's comments on his gelantinous cube having boobies was great.

Honestly, I like some that I see with 4e (less alignment), hate a bunch more (rapid advancement for one), but I am still curious. Mouseferatu's comments are interesting.

4e would have been more easier for me to take if they hadn't (in my opinion) messed up FR to follow the rules.
 

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Same reason that posters who are supportive of 4E are here.

perhaps you didn't notice my request that posters make sure they talk about their own reasons rather than speculate on other people in this thread? That's why I've removed your speculation - PS
 
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PoeticJustice said:
A bit off topic but I'm in the same boat as you, Whisper. After Ari gave such a glowing review and I found out about the tax rebates I figured: Why not?

Then I got home to my library. It's just not possible for me to justify letting all that game material go to waste.

On top of that I've got a campaign going that I don't particularly want to scrap just for the new rules.

I wonder how many others don't plan on switching but don't also oppose 4E. I'd bet it's bigger group than one might imagine.

I'm kind of in a similar boat. Admittedly, there is a lot about 4E that I've heard, which I'm not a fan of. It just seems to be going in a different direction than I am. However, I'm still interested in the end product. I *want* to like it.....so I stick around and post, but mainly lurk, as I've found very little actual debate that doesn't seem to devolve into something less polite.

There are several interesting things I've read about 4E though....the new stuff about the Feywild seems really cool.....with the exception of topiary dryads :) The integration of stuff from the Book of Nine Swords could be cool also.

I do want to see what else is coming in the new game though, which is why I keep reading this forum. I've got so much 3.5 and 3.0 stuff though, much of which hasn't been used yet. I still want to try a Conan game.....and a Game of Thrones game, and a Dragonlance game, and a Ptolus game, and an Eberron game.....and an Iron Kingdoms game (especially). And my Midnight game is still going. I've got material for all of those, and I'd be willing to bet that at the rate we're going, it'll probably last me to 5E. So do I just get rid of it? I took the effort of trying to continue running Planescape during 3E, even though it required a lot of converting, or waiting for conversions. I'm not sure I want to go through with that again, so maybe it's easier to just stick with 3E for now. Many of my players have expressed that they don't want to switch anyways, which makes it easier.

I'd rather that 4E doesn't kill the game....because then there won't be a 5E. I just might not be a big consumer this time around. Or, maybe I'm kidding myself. I guess I'll know in May :).

Banshee
 
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Mainly out of curiosity is the simple answer. I did not care for 3E and in many ways 4E seems somewhat like a return to the roots so to speak. I am also interested in the online component of 4E. I have not had the time to sit down for a real session of good old fashioned D&D in years, and this online component may be the answer to that. I do play MMOs, and enjoy them... but I have yet to see one even come close to what is possible at the tabletop. This online "game table" looks promising to me.
 

Echoing what a lot of people here have said, I'm somebody who is sticking with 3.5 but I have my reasons for being here.

1. I have been playing D&D for over a decade now, so even if I am not going to play the new edition I do want to know where the game is going and I do have some emotional investment in the state of the game and it's settings.

2. I am mildly interested in pilfering some odds and ends from 4e to retrofit to 3.5. Since I disagree with a lot of the design philosophy and general play-style assumptions of 4e (I like character sheets that detail all kinds of non-combat/non-adventuring skills and abilities like tailoring, monster stat blocks that list lots of abilities that might not come up in combat, I like gritty dungeon-survival crawls, ect.) I know there will be a lot I won't like in 4e, but if there is something I can use I will.

3. While 3.5 is my preferred edition (it isn't perfect, I don't like pokemounts, the "christmas tree" effect, and a few ways some spells now act, but it's closer to my D&D ideal than any other edition), I do know I will be dealing with 4e players in social surroundings in the future so being conversant with a widely used edition is a good idea.

4. The advent of 4e has brought up a lot of debate over what really is D&D. A lot of things I had always considered pretty much intrinsic to the D&D experience, or at least default assumptions that were core even if specific settings didn't use them, are right out in 4e and weren't in some older editions I didn't play weren't there at all, or some other players always ignored them or disregarded them. It has really shined a light on the sheer variety of play styles, editions, mechanics, and setting presumptions that have emerged over three decades of D&D.
 

Vyvyan Basterd said:
Call it curiosity. For those of you who have stated that you will not ever buy 4th Edition. Why are you still here? I don't mean on ENWorld, just the 4th Edition subforum.

I may or may not play 4e. I know I find the developments interesting, and I know all 4e discussion belongs here.
 

I didn't respond to this for a while because I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I thought it muight be curiosity at first, but that wore off real quick with every change announced. And most any response I made would not necessarily be constructive. This no doubt won't be either. But I specifically sought out this thread today after seeing it last week or so to say:

I'm still here because I get to relay every change WotC is making and how they go about leaking them and their excuses behind them to my wife on our nightly walks after work. There's been times recently we literally laughed so hard we had to stop walking to catch our breath.

Change can be good, but did it have to go competly zany-wonky bonkers with clown feet?

3.5 Alive.

-DM Jeff
 

Vyvyan Basterd said:
Call it curiosity. For those of you who have stated that you will not ever buy 4th Edition. Why are you still here? I don't mean on ENWorld, just the 4th Edition subforum.
- Simple, plain-old, curiosity.
- Find something worth salvaging.
- Maybe my players will change their minds in the future.
- Maybe I will meet somebody who plays, become friends, etc etc.

And, again:
Simple, plain-old, curiosity. (Which, frankly, is enough.)
 


I like to know what the "mainstream" of D&D gamers are up to these days, even if from time to time my interests diverge from theirs.
 

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