Cergorach
The Laughing One
It's just that a lot of folks don't appreciate flag waving and others do...
D&D General Why Enworld should liberate D&D from Hasbro
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Jahydin
Hero
I think it is.
From what I've seen, we've gone from most groups looking like this:
To this:
I just had to get out of small town to see it.
One of the last game stores I went to, The Book Rack on Whidbey Island, had so many girls playing and shopping that I almost walked out (thought it was a "girls night" event and didn't want to intrude). Nope, just a normal day for them.
While playing boardgames there with my friend, I couldn't help but listen to the loud D&D games around us and was amazed at how differently they played. Hearing the likes of, "So how does that make your character feel?", "I think one of the goblin's might be crushing on you...", and "A surprise party would be awesome! How should we decorate!?" Dice were still being rolled and role-playing was certainly happening, but... just so different from my town of nerdy engineers. The important thing though, they were having fun. And important to WotC (and 3rd party publishers), they carried a lot of books, geek-merch, and miniatures with them.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
If you look at the gender of the people who are reading fantasy these days, it's more female.
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aiouh
Adventurer
"Why does D&D do new things?"
Because old things already exist. Nobody is stopping you from playing them. They're on DTRPG. There's a bajillion remixes of the original D&D that try to harken back to the "golden age" filled with rough line art sketches and deadly monsters. Big Hasbro isn't suppressing them or pursuing them legally. The original PDFs of 1e B/X are basically directly googleable (depending on your jurisdiction)
To offer a car analogy "Why does BMW focus on Electric Vehicles so much? ENWorld needs to rescue BMW and return it to its roots"
Because the Z4 Petrol Roadster exists since 2003. It has been refined over the years over 3 generations and creatively, they pretty much exhausted that route. They still sell it but they won't promote it as much, because people who wanted the Z4 got one by now and there's not much to improve on it. But Z4 owners might feel miffed that its not front and center of promotional material and some how a "snub" on people who enjoy Z4s, which is a false premise.
What I feel like a lot of chronically online D&D fans want is validation. They want WotC to say:"This is the right way to play D&D. You are having fun the correct way." and in turn believing that D&D making promotional materials featuring a lighter and more lgbtq+ friendly vision of it says that "the old ways are wrong, you are enjoying D&D wrong if you DON'T base your campaign around queer weddings". This is however a false premise. These things can totally coexist in parallel.
Because old things already exist. Nobody is stopping you from playing them. They're on DTRPG. There's a bajillion remixes of the original D&D that try to harken back to the "golden age" filled with rough line art sketches and deadly monsters. Big Hasbro isn't suppressing them or pursuing them legally. The original PDFs of 1e B/X are basically directly googleable (depending on your jurisdiction)
To offer a car analogy "Why does BMW focus on Electric Vehicles so much? ENWorld needs to rescue BMW and return it to its roots"
Because the Z4 Petrol Roadster exists since 2003. It has been refined over the years over 3 generations and creatively, they pretty much exhausted that route. They still sell it but they won't promote it as much, because people who wanted the Z4 got one by now and there's not much to improve on it. But Z4 owners might feel miffed that its not front and center of promotional material and some how a "snub" on people who enjoy Z4s, which is a false premise.
What I feel like a lot of chronically online D&D fans want is validation. They want WotC to say:"This is the right way to play D&D. You are having fun the correct way." and in turn believing that D&D making promotional materials featuring a lighter and more lgbtq+ friendly vision of it says that "the old ways are wrong, you are enjoying D&D wrong if you DON'T base your campaign around queer weddings". This is however a false premise. These things can totally coexist in parallel.
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It is more complicated than that - folks usually don't have a problem with their own flags waving. Indeed, they don't generally even notice - they just think, "Hey, there's someone who thinks like me."
But when someone else waves a flag that doesn't match, they take offense.
Like, there's a segment of the gaming population that have a problem when WotC has art like the picture in question, that depicts a same-gender relationship. But they never consider how often they signal their own support for heterosexual attraction or relationships.
Thomas Shey
Legend
Yeah, in a way its a team t-shirt.
The Firebird
Commoner
I finally saw the original post, and man those comments are disturbing.
popuman
Explorer
Fair. For those who identify with that, I choose the latter. Still, a waste of time and energy from their part. Life is too short.
Warpiglet-7
Hero
You are not wrong. But are there any pictures of male female romance in 5e? Or in ads?
I don’t remember any. But maybe as you say it’s because I am blind to representations that are more common.
If male-female romance was or had been suppressed by our culture in a meaningful way, that'd be an excellent question.
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