Wil Wheaton Sues Geek & Sundry Over Titansgrave

Titansgrave: The Ashes of Valkana was a web series produced by Geek & Sundry and Wil Wheaton; it later became a Fantasy AGE campaign setting from Green Ronin. Wheaton is suing Geek & Sundry over his share of the profits from that web series, and has filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court.

Hollywood Reporter has more information. Apparently the agreement was that Wheaton be paid $50,000 plus 50% of the series' net profit. He is seeking $100,000 in damages and asking that an audit take place.

 

[pming]

Hiya!

Hollywood Reporter has more information. Apparently the agreement was that Wheaton be paid $50,000 plus 50% of the series' net profit. He is seeking $100,000 in damages and asking that an audit take place.

Well, I for one hope he wins whatever it is he deserves/agreed to. I only bought Titansgrave because of that series. It looked interesting enough, and I like the AGE system. A bit dissapointed in the actual Titansgrave book itself (too much "adventure" and not enough info for a Campaign setting...but better than nothing I guess).

I may not agree with a lot of Will's current opinions and whatnot, but I do like him as an actor and gamer...and I hate seeing any gamer get screwed by some company or 'fine print'. Hope he gets what he's due.

^_^

Paul L. Ming

 

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[pming]

Hiya!

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I'm going to take the 5th here and just say "No comment".

^_^

Paul L. Ming

 

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[CleverNickName]

Same here. Wil's always been a stand-up guy, as far as I can tell. The big news lately is that he left Twitter because he disagreed with their policies. (shrug)

 

[Aldarc]

Same here. Wil's always been a stand-up guy, as far as I can tell. The big news lately is that he left Twitter because he disagreed with their policies. (shrug)

"Jack" is hardly consistent when it comes to policing their platform.

 

[DEFCON 1]

I follow him on his blog and I don't think I'm too far off in thinking that he is a far left progressive. So the more you begin moving centrally and then further right, the less you probably go along with what he believes (and his language regarding people further right are not exactly friendly, which I'm sure is off-putting as well.)

He's also been quite frank about living and dealing with his extremely severe Depression, so your personal thoughts and beliefs on mental illness might also align or misalign you to him.

 

[Gradine]

I generally follow him too, and maybe I'm naive but I think "far left" is a bit of a stretch. His language for those he disagrees with is... definitely colorful though (one might even say Kluwe-esque) which is why he is not always endearing to some. I'd be somewhat shocked, in this day and age, that his openness in speaking about mental illness would earn him ire as well, but then given the trash fire that we currently live in, should I really be that surprised?

That said, I very much enjoyed the Titansgrave series until the "Wil reads his fan fiction to the players" episode, and there's a lot to like about Fantasy AGE in general. I mourn the loss of quality G&S content daily.

 

[DEFCON 1]

I generally follow him too, and maybe I'm naive but I think "far left" is a bit of a stretch. His language for those he disagrees with is... definitely colorful though (one might even say Kluwe-esque) which is why he is not always endearing to some. I'd be somewhat shocked, in this day and age, that his openness in speaking about mental illness would earn him ire as well, but then given the trash fire that we currently live in, should I really be that surprised?

Yeah, I have no idea what may or may not be an issue for people, so I was just guesstimating based on stuff he's talked about on his blog-- politics, mental health, his acting career etc. I have no idea what issues any person might personally have with him.

All I do know is that I for one would love to see more episodes of Tabletop. I firmly believe that the same way Critical Role led the way in mainstreaming D&D, Tabletop did it for the board game industry. The Diana Jones Award they got was greatly deserved.

 

[Gradine]

Oh absolutely. There are a bunch of board games I would never own if I didn't see them first on TableTop. It still floored me the first time I saw stuff like Pandemic or Dixit in a freaking Target (with a sign saying "As Seen on YouTube's TableTop!", no less)

 

[BookBarbarian]

I wish he could sue them and get TableTop back. I miss that show.

Anyway, if G&S is in violation of their agreement I hope he takes them to the cleaners.

 

[Morrus]

I wish he could sue them and get TableTop back. I miss that show.

Does he need the brand name? I would think he’s the bigger brand name than Tabletop there. A new show headed by him would probably do just as well.

 

[BookBarbarian]

Does he need the brand name? I would think he’s the bigger brand name than Tabletop there. A new show headed by him would probably do just as well.

That's a very good point. Probably not.

 

[pming]

Hiya!

I'm with you all on the missing of TableTop. Great little series that let me see a variety of games I would never see otherwise (where I live, lets just say I could count the number of "game stores" on my fingers and have 9 left over). The closest game store after that is about, oh, 1600km away...and I don't envy driving 20 hours to go peruse the latest TT games.

^_^

Paul L. Ming

 

[BookBarbarian]

Hiya!

I'm with you all on the missing of TableTop. Great little series that let me see a variety of games I would never see otherwise (where I live, lets just say I could count the number of "game stores" on my fingers and have 9 left over). The closest game store after that is about, oh, 1600km away...and I don't envy driving 20 hours to go peruse the latest TT games.

^_^

Paul L. Ming

I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I'm spoiled for options. So I loved to see the ones he chose and found enjoyable.

In particular the ones he played with his wife and kids. Without the veil of charismatic actors, I could get a better idea if the game was fun.

But I must admit seeing them played by actors/celebrities was a big part of the enjoyment and a big reason I prefer TableTop to Game the Game.

 

[Greatwyrm]

I don't think anybody would be surprised if there was some voodoo accounting involved in this. I know Hollywood money is powerful, but I'm still surprised they continue to get away with playing with numbers the way they do.

 

[aramis erak]

[...] but I'm still surprised they continue to get away with playing with numbers the way they do.

The issue is one of recoverability.
If you get an order for forensic accounting to be going through it, usually, the losing side pays. So, unless you have the cash to afford to pay...
... it becomes a strong disincentive to sue.

 

[Grave Knight]

Well, I for one hope he wins whatever it is he deserves/agreed to. I only bought Titansgrave because of that series. It looked interesting enough, and I like the AGE system. A bit dissapointed in the actual Titansgrave book itself (too much "adventure" and not enough info for a Campaign setting...but better than nothing I guess).

We were suppose to get a season 2 (probably never happening) and a World of Valkana (we have a better chance of seeing this but not likely). I'm wondering if his deal with Geek and Sundry is what was/is preventing those books from releasing.

 

[dragoner]

Almost certainly sounds like an IP fight