D&D 4E Will you buy 4e?

Will you buy 4th edition?

  • I will buy it sight unseen

    Votes: 283 38.9%
  • I might buy it, after initial reviews

    Votes: 163 22.4%
  • I probably will not buy it, but might eventually

    Votes: 172 23.6%
  • I absolutely will not buy it

    Votes: 63 8.7%
  • I have no idea

    Votes: 47 6.5%

I can't want for concrete facts regarding 4e to be published. As it stands, the rumors and third-party information have left a sour taste in my mouth.

Let's start with D&D Insider. Word has it that it will not be Mac-compatible, at least to start. This makes it useless, to me. Can I get a discounted rate, since I won't be able to run the applications? Oh, wait, can I just get DRAGON? Dungeons isn't very useful for my games. Hopefully by the time they make Mac versions of the applications, they won't look like 20-year old computer games. The PC visualizer looks like it only supports core races; I would like for it to support all playable races in the Monster Manual. The dungeon creator looks entirely two-dimensional. What about encounters in the air or underwater?

Losing a core race and class. It all depends on which ones they drop, I suppose. Half-elf and half-orc could easily be dropped in favor of becoming templates, just as paladin and barbarian could become PrCs. If they drop the bard, the game will be a lot less attractive to me. Keep the gnome and drop the halfling, make the Tolkien folks happy. And what is that new core race; a half-dragon or a tiefling? Tiefling would make no sense whatsoever. Why not add the aventi as a core race? In most campaign worlds there are more oceans and seas than there are planar portals or outsiders dabbling the affairs of mortals. Mind you, I have liked tieflings and half-fiends since the 1e days of alu-demons.

The redefining of the roles of monsters also troubles me. I’d prefer that every sentient race in the Monster Manual be available for use as a player character race. I rarely run campaigns that use the core races. For example, my current campaign assumes that PCs have a natural swim speed and can breathe underwater without the use of magic. Will 4e allow for PC merfolk, sea elves, locathah, and tritons? Not to mention awakened sharks, undead, animate figureheads, and the like.

Lack of Greyhawk support at launch is a given. I'm used to it. I can wait. Just don't expect me to run campaigns in Eberron or FR in the meantime. I’ve heard they are keeping some of the GH proper names but will also mention beings from other mythologies. Thor was given as an example. No thanks. If you’re going to dabble in real-world religions (never mind how ancient), then at least establish the witch and/or shaman as a core class.

In short, if 4e nurtures my imagination, encourages interactive storytelling betwixt players and DM, and instills a sense of wonder - I'm in. If 4e looks and feels like a video game - I'm out. I skipped 2e because it felt like the rules had been "dummied down". I came back with 3e. I'm hoping WotC doesn't make me establish a pattern.
 

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This thread is pointless, its like saying would you buy a car that hasn't even been unveiled yet.

None of us have even seen the new edition yet. Many people saying they would never buy it will be the ones say "oooooh, ahhhhh" in 6-9 months. Some people who are really excited will be disappointed when they see it. That's how it goes.

The reality is this. People complained about 3e, but the vast majority starting playing it. People complained at 3.5, but now the majority play it. I'm sure 4e will be no different.
 

Stalker0 said:
This thread is pointless, its like saying would you buy a car that hasn't even been unveiled yet.
I want one of these, btw:
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People complained about 3e, but the vast majority starting playing it. People complained at 3.5, but now the majority play it. I'm sure 4e will be no different.

Agreed. If we don't complain about it now, it won't be any good once it gets here! ;)
 

I, like many others, have went through many editions of the game.

I only bought the core 3.5 books and I had many years of fun with those three books. I will probably purchase the 3 core books for the new edition too. But not much more.
 

In about 7 days I celebrate 30 years of playing RPGs and I started with Dungeons & Dragons like most in my generation. I will very likely purchase the 4E version of the game but I think it will be for the collector in me. This may well be my last hurrah for D&D. I'm tired of editions, expansions and supplements that keep modifying and changing and 'perfecting' the rules. At least, D&D in tiring me in that aspect. I just want a system that lets me build on it myself and has supplements full of cool ideas and ways to play in unique styles or settings. Mutants & Mastminds does this exceptionally well. I only ever need the rulebook and the Ultimate Power book. I like to use many of the others but I don't need them to play. More and more I use crunch less and less. 3.0 Works fine for me and if I have to play D&D I'll most likely use it.
 

I'll buy 4.0 when I'm in a game that will use it, unless they have really, really good discounts at launch. I learned my lesson with 3.0. I bought the core books expecting that I'd be sure to use them... but as it turned out, I didn't play in a game until 3.5 had come out. Three books, never used, and unlike settings/adventures/etc, they're unlikely to ever be useful.
 

ShinHakkaider said:
If it renders my 3x books obsolete and useless then HELL NO. If I can use my 3x books without too much hassle then maybe. Either way, I'm not too happy with the idea of 4E right around the corner...

Same here. I'm still pissed about 3.5 coming out so quickly on the heels of 3.0, and I STILL haven't bought the 3.5 PHB or DMG.
 

Stalker0 said:
This thread is pointless, its like saying would you buy a car that hasn't even been unveiled yet.

Now that's not a good comparision because one is extremely expensive while the other is a pittance. A better comparision I think would be buying an entire movie trilogy that you've not seen.
 

The only thing definite with me is I will buy the PH. After that I find it highly unlikely I will like it enough to keep buying. I have "Tome of Battle: Book of 9 Swords" and like it a lot.

However it gives me the feeling of a game where Dragonball Z has been put in my fantasy.

That is not what I want.

So the PH will completely decide what I do about the rest of 4E.

I suspect I will be only a player, and only own the PH.

I will find out in May of 08.
 


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