D&D 5E (2024) Wizards of the Coast promises to release more “CRPGs that are going to be as serious as BG3” without Larian

[Reynard]

Why would I? Plenty of games have been produced by companies that have made a ton of money in the past that I never purchased. Other times companies have come out of nowhere to produce games I really enjoy.

I hope they produce good games because it would likely be in a genre I enjoy. But I have no horse in this race, no financial interest one way or another, I have no idea if they're going to produce good games or not.

"I have no financial interest whatsoever" means you don't have any impact, either. I was talking about people being willing to spend money or invest capital when there is a high degree of uncertainty. If you only buy a game once it comes out and gets good reviews, you aren't in the cohort I was talking about.

 

[AlViking]

"I have no financial interest whatsoever" means you don't have any impact, either. I was talking about people being willing to spend money or invest capital when there is a high degree of uncertainty. If you only buy a game once it comes out and gets good reviews, you aren't in the cohort I was talking about.

You stated "So you don't care..." which is true to a large degree. I'd like some fun games to play and that's not going to even be a possibility if they don't get ongoing funding. But other than that? I'm not some billionaire investor nor am I an influencer so nothing I say or do is going to have any impact one way or the other.

 

[Parmandur]

Full trailer for the video game just dropped, coming early 2027, seems a lot of thisnis gameplay at thisnpoint. Showikg what WotC can do internally now:


And an announcement trailer for a new D&D action game made in-house ar WotC, Warlock:

 

[nevin]

Oboy more I over the top drama dark GOT style choices and less heroic stories. Pfft!......can I just have my heroes being heroes please.

 

[Charlaquin]

incredibly, things don't need to contain NSFW aspects to be 'serious', honestly did putting in the infamous bear scene and whatever else similar NSFW content that is in the game really add any notable amount of value overall?

Certainly did for me. NSFW content is something I very much enjoy in fantasy like D&D, but generally don’t want in the tabletop game. Putting it in a D&D video game is a great example of taking advantage of the strengths of the medium. As a single player video game, it can allow players to indulge in content they might want from D&D but not want to do in a social context.

 

[Misanthrope Prime]

incredibly, things don't need to contain NSFW aspects to be 'serious', honestly did putting in the infamous bear scene and whatever else similar NSFW content that is in the game really add any notable amount of value overall?

All games are NSFW. You shouldn't be playing games at work. By dint of them not belonging in the workplace, period, they can have whatever content they want.

 

[Charlaquin]

I thought BG3 was the dating sim?!

I mean, you joke, but like… all of the most successful CRPGs have had elements of that. It’s an important part of the formula, particularly because there is a huge portion of the audience for that genre that come for the romances first and foremost, and don’t really care what the rest of the game is like. Some folks really do play BG3 and other games like it as dating sims, and just tolerate the tactical combat games that come attached to them, as something they have to get through to unlock the next romance scene. I’d be one of them, except that I happen to also enjoy tactical CRPG combat.

 

[Charlaquin]

Regards making a D&D movie and to some degree a videogame, it should prioritize the medium. A movie should first be a movie, a compelling story that happens to take place in a D&D world. It shouldnt necessarily be a quest to communicate the D&D tabletop experience.

Likewise a videogame must first be a videogame. The tabletop play isnt necessarily relevant.

I think this focus on being the medium of a videogame is why Larian succeeded where WotC might not have.

Relatedly, WotC might be too preoccupied with intellectual property, whether enforcing it or keeping it away from adult themes, would end up interfering with the videogame experience. Larian only cared about what served the needs of a videogame, and was happy to jettison any aspect of core IP that didnt help the videogame.

Yes, to an extent. But also, it has to have something that makes it feel like D&D. It doesn’t have to feel like playing the tabletop game, but it does need a certain D&Dish ja ne se quois, else it’s just another generic fantasy game/movie/whatever.

 

[Parmandur]

I mean, you joke, but like… all of the most successful CRPGs have had elements of that. It’s an important part of the formula, particularly because there is a huge portion of the audience for that genre that come for the romances first and foremost, and don’t really care what the rest of the game is like. Some folks really do play BG3 and other games like it as dating sims, and just tolerate the tactical combat games that come attached to them, as something they have to get through to unlock the next romance scene. I’d be one of them, except that I happen to also enjoy tactical CRPG combat.

Big Venn diagram overlap for those two interests. The dating Sim side is sort of a "social combat" I guess?

 

[Charlaquin]

Bug Venn diagram overlap for those two interests. The dating Sim side is sort of a "social combat" I guess?

Well, @Ruin Explorer already hit the nail on the head in post #35. One circle of that venn diagram is white dudes who like fantasy, action, and boobies. The other circle is women and queer folk who like fantasy, romance, and boobies. The overlap includes people who like fantasy, and people who like boobies. Also, there’s a not insignificant portion of folks like me who started out in one of those circles and moved to the other.