Wonder Woman Out Dec 16th

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Guess we will find out in a few more days.

No, I meant in general before streaming completely kills theatres.

WW84 is going to do terribly theatre wise here in the US.

 

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Note the big market is still China.......

 

[Zardnaar]

Note the big market is still China.......

I think they take a much larger slice of the pie than US cinemas.

US box office still the most profitable.

 

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i think we've drifted a bit far from the opening topic....like a whole city away..... Disney's next investor meeting is on the 10th,and the focuses is on streaming, so we may get an idea as to what they will be planning...

If i have the money, i'll re-sub to HBO Max, unlike CBS (need to resub for The Stand too) or Peacock, they actually have other stuff to hold me on to for a month.

AMC has a response AMC Theatres boss criticizes Warner Bros. for HBO Max 2021 release plans

 

[DammitVictor]

Is there much demand for a Matrix 4? After 2 and 3 who really wants to see more? I'm sure there's someone but....

Yeah, I'm here for it. I mean, the sequels weren't great and they tied the story off pretty thoroughly-- but I like the universe, and more importantly, I like the Wachowskis. I couldn't see Jupiter Ascending enough times in the theaters for it to get a sequel, but checking out Matrix 4 is about the only way to tell Hollywood to keep throwing them money.

 

[Umbran]

Note the big market is still China.......

China is a big market, but not THE big market. Not a single one of the top ten highest grossing movies of 2019 got more in China than they did domestically.

Of the next 20, there are 4 from Chinese movie studios that did better in China than the US. The only top-20 movie that year made by a US studio that did better in China was Fast & Furious: Hobbes and Shaw.

 

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Those big budget movies also have big budget advertising budgets.

Means they have to break 500 million or so to break even.

And looks like more theatres are going to be closed.

Tenet got $300 iirc at the box office and I think Mulan got 90 million on streaming.

Those were the biggest hits post Covid.

They tried selling Bond to streamers for $600 million best offer was $300 million.

Wonder Women 84 is the next Canary in the coalmine to test it out. We'll know more once it's released.

I was unclear. My speculation about big budget movies being successful in theaters is for the post-vaccine scenario where a large portion of the audience continues to stay home and watch streamed content and films. I don't think any movie released during the pandemic, or in the next two months, will be a good indicator yay or nay on this.

 

[Zardnaar]

I was unclear. My speculation about big budget movies being successful in theaters is for the post-vaccine scenario where a large portion of the audience continues to stay home and watch streamed content and films. I don't think any movie released during the pandemic, or in the next two months, will be a good indicator yay or nay on this.

By then the theaters may have gone under and idk if anyone would bother spending the money to reopen them if the studios are moving content online.

Disney has a investors thing on Dec 10 I think it's half expected they're going to follow WB and announce they putting their content online.

Btw.
Early reviews apparently very positive for Wonder Women 84.

 

[Umbran]

By then the theaters may have gone under and idk if anyone would bother spending the money to reopen them if the studios are moving content online.

You yourself were noting how online was not going to make nearly as much money. The studios will want butts back in seats as soon as possible. They're moving content online for now because they are hemorrhaging cash and would like to stem the tide at least somewhat. But that's only for now.

 

[Zardnaar]

You yourself were noting how online was not going to make nearly as much money. The studios will want butts back in seats as soon as possible. They're moving content online for now because they are hemorrhaging cash and would like to stem the tide at least somewhat. But that's only for now.

They're trying simultaneous release which is different to the 90 day thing.

Idk if they can make it work as they were charginging $30 for a movie on ppv.

Not bad if you can fill your house to watch movie. Not so great in a pandemic.

WW84 will be first big budget AAA title to test the theory.

Idk how long AMC, Regal etc can hold out for. AMCs stock plummeted when WB announced the HBO deal.