Worlds of Design: In the Shadow of Tolkien

How much does Tolkien’s body of work influence you fantasy role-playing games?

When were you first interested in Tolkien's works compared to when you played FRPGs

  • I was interested in Tolkien's works well before I got into FRPGs

    Votes: 59 50.0%
  • My interest in Tolkien's works and FRPGs happened about the same time

    Votes: 42 35.6%
  • I became interested Tolkien's works well after I got into FRPGs

    Votes: 15 12.7%
  • I've never been a fan or influenced by Tolkien's works

    Votes: 2 1.7%

The answer is likely predicated on if you came to Tolkien before you came to FRPGs.

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"Nobody believes me when I say that my long book is an attempt to create a world in which a form of language agreeable to my personal aesthetic might seem real. But it is true." - J. R. R. Tolkien

I read the Lord of the Rings (LOTR) when I was in my late teens, about seven years before original Dungeons & Dragons was released. (The Hobbit came later for me.) This is long before any LOTR movies, of course. Most of you have read LOTR (or watched the Peter Jackson movies) long after the release of D&D, I suspect, but still we can ask which came first for you, LOTR or D&D?

Which Came First (for You)?​

I’d suppose that Tolkien is likely to have a greater influence on your gaming if you came to Tolkien before you came to fantasy role-playing games (FRPGs).

This also might depend on when you started playing FRPGs. When I first played D&D (1975) the assumption was that the GM would mine fantasy novels and stories, and myths and legends, for ideas for his/her campaign. I remember hunting down Stith-Thompson’s Motif Index of Folklore Literature (in Duke Library), surely not something many GMs do today (even though today it’s a free PDF rather than huge paper volumes). There were few adventure modules and even fewer ready-made settings to buy. With this approach, Tolkien would be one author amongst many, maybe foremost but still just one.

Gary Gygax listed in Appendix N of AD&D the novels/novelists that had influenced him, including many long preceding LOTR. I’ve read most of the books listed in the Appendix, but I suspect many younger people have read few of them. Working from the list, Jeffro Johnson in his book Appendix N: the Literary History of Dungeons & Dragons, by reviewing these books, has ably demonstrated that there were a lot stronger influences on D&D than Tolkien.

Tolkien’s Expanding Influence​

Even before the Ralph Bakshi LOTR movie (1978) I gauged the likelihood that someone would like D&D according to whether or not they’d read The Lord of the Rings. (Many give up because the book starts slowly.) If they had not read it, prospects were much less rosy. Now, with many movies (Peter Jackson’s, Bakshi’s, and the Rankin Bass follow-up to Bakshi, and others more obscure), and even a LOTR TV series (Rings of Power), I don’t rely on my old view. On the other hand, so many more people are aware of LOTR (and of RPGs) than in the pre-movie past.

More recently, adventure modules and even settings of all kinds can be found online, including many that are free. GMs don’t have to make up adventures or settings, they can use someone else’s creations. Further, many of the old fantasy authors are virtually unknown to recent generations. But with the movies, Tolkien is even more well-known than when there were only books. Do the movies make Tolkien a stronger influence? Or do GMs today just accept whatever adventures/settings they acquire and not change much? For most these days, likely the latter.

Beyond Tolkien​

If you want more discussion of Tolkien’s influence, see my previous articles (Escaping Tolkien and Reassessing Tolkien’s Influence). As I wrote this, I asked myself, what’s the biggest influence likely to be, after Tolkien?

Conan the Barbarian (whether the savage Robert E. Howard version, or the more tempered ones by other authors that followed)? Wheel of Time? Game of Thrones? Dresden Files? David Eddings’ Mallorean and Belgariad? Brandon Sanderson’s Mistborn? Harry Potter? Superhero movies? Something from Appendix N days such as Poul Anderson’s Three Hearts and Three Lions?

Your Turn: Do you think the timing on your exposure to Tolkien’s works influenced your FRPG play?
 

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Lewis Pulsipher

Lewis Pulsipher

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As for what will influence D&D? Personally, I think Avatar: the Last Airbender is a more likely target. It's a similarly HUGE HUGE HUGE generation-defining hit that presented old ideas in new ways and new ideas steeped in ancient tradition.

This hold true in terms of being a presence in ppls' lives. Separate from the IP which has an official game, I expect there will be some influence coming from it.

(e.g. I mean, I have cabbage guy in my campaign...)
 

The Hobbit was read to us in a class back in 1970, setting my interest in fantasy and science fiction and opening worlds of wonder from then on. My step mother took me to a game shop back in 1978 and that was all she wrote... gaming was a part of my life from that time on.
 

I say this as a huge Tolkien fan, but I just don't think this question/inquiry is as relevant in 2025 as it was several decades ago. Or rather, its relevance depends upon age: and this inquiry seems mostly focused on those who have been playing D&D for 30+ years. No problem with that, but I think it is worth reminding ourselves that for those us for whom this question is relevant, we are a "graying breed."

There are several generations of gamers who have grown up with larger influences. Tolkien remains an underlying influence for much of fantasy, but is no longer the big elephant in the room, or the singular most prominent influence for the majority of current gamers. I wouldn't say there's a distinct cutoff point in terms of age, but you could probably center it somewhere around 45 years old, or the switch from Gen-X to Millenial, with variation on either side.

And of course the LotR films themselves are probably more influential to most gamers than the books: I would guess that there are far more people under the age of 40 or so who have seen the films but not read the books, so for them Tolkien is the Peter Jackson films.

I mean, it is sort of like Babe Ruth for hitting in baseball. He revolutionized hitting, but there have been many great hitters since, and no current hitters model themselves after Ruth. They might model themselves after Barry Bonds or Albert Pujols, or older contemporaries like Mike Trout and Aaron Judge. But for most young hitters, Babe Ruth is more of a distant mythic figure that has no bearing on their own game - except through his influence on the tradition of baseball itself.

Now it might not be that extreme, but it serves the point. In reality, the corpus of D&D itself--with its huge amount of materials and stories over 50+ years--is a far greater influence on gamers than Tolkien. And over those 50 years, so many different elements have trickled into D&D: pretty much all of fantasy literature, countless films, video games, anime, comics, etc etc.
 


I got into reading at an early age. At the time, the average Yard Sale had a box of ten cent books. A lot of old yellowed paperback books printed in the 60-70's. Most of them were reprints of old pulp fiction from years before.

The bygone fun days of walking around parking lots to find lost pennies. Find pennies in the ash trays at McDonalds (not sure why this was a thing). And a lot of people let loose change in thier unlocked cars (go figure). Every 10 was a new book!

Edgar Rice Burrows and Issac Asimov became my quick favorites. And Tolkien, but he only had a couple books.

I read them all long before I ever heard of D&D.
 

Personally, I love Tolkien, and LotR is probably the greatest fantasy influence on me bar none. But I think that it's difficult to overstate Tolkien's impact, even to those who don't like him. The entire genre was shaped by his works.

That fairly famous quote by Terry Pratchett is still valid:
J.R.R. Tolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it’s big and up close. Sometimes it’s a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it’s not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji.
 

I have never seen a PC Dragonborn. Current flavor of the month are warforged and tabaxi, recently edging out halflings.

Despite its popularity, the only effect of BG3 I have noticed was a PC gith.
I see tons of Dragonborn. So far there have been zero warforged and one tabaxi among my newbies.

After elves and dwarves the most popular non-human species that I see are dragonborn, goliaths, orcs, and goblins.
 

When I started reading fantasy, I did read The Hobbit but also Redwall. When my father found out that I was reading fantasy, he took me to his parents' house, where he still had many books from his childhood and college reading. So before I got around to reading Lord of the Rings, my father had introduced me to Michael Moorcock's multiverse (Elric of Melniboné, Corum, Dorian Hawkmoon, etc.), A Wizard of Earthsea, Fritz Lieber, John Carter of Mars, etc. I only got around to reading LotR around the time that the films came out, but by then, my sense of fantasy was already outside of Tolkien.

If the question is "when will the next Tolkien appear?", as in, when will we next get someone who casts a shadow like what Tolkien has? I don't think that person has published anything yet. It might be that they haven't even been born yet. It'll be a while. Generation-defining literature is rare, and extremely hard to predict!
In a world where reading is less prevalent for visual and interactive media, it's also worth considering that video games may also be taking the place of "books" in terms of influential fantasy works.
 

When I started reading fantasy, I did read The Hobbit but also Redwall. When my father found out that I was reading fantasy, he took me to his parents' house, where he still had many books from his childhood and college reading. So before I got around to reading Lord of the Rings, my father had introduced me to Michael Moorcock's multiverse (Elric of Melniboné, Corum, Dorian Hawkmoon, etc.), A Wizard of Earthsea, Fritz Lieber, John Carter of Mars, etc. I only got around to reading LotR around the time that the films came out, but by then, my sense of fantasy was already outside of Tolkien.
That’s great. I’d also put a lot of pulp sword & sorcery fiction much higher on my list of influences than anything by Tolkien. And comic books. My gods the comic books.
In a world where reading is less prevalent for visual and interactive media, it's also worth considering that video games may also be taking the place of "books" in terms of influential fantasy works.
Along with anime and manga. At a guess those three are far, far more influential to those coming up than Tolkien ever will be. At least directly.
 

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