Worst 3.5 Change
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Piratecat
Sesquipedalian
Note that there is tremendous roleplaying potential in this that you wouldn't find in the mount spell, because you get the same horse every time. The horse might have belonged to a famous paladin in the past, it might have witnessed miraculous and historic events. I can see an entire adventure based on the rumors which erupt when a young paladin gets a warhorse who seems to be the reincarnation of the warhorse belonging to the dead paladin king. Then the enemies of the dead king start showing up to confirm or deny that possibility... 
As for the whole "car in your ass" analogy, I'm not sure it holds true, because there aren't a whole boatload of feats and combat styles and class abilities that revolve around how cool my car (or your ass of holding) is in combat. I think that a class ability or magic item (like that ring mentioned previously) which lets you use your underutilized class abilities is a good thing. This is the same reason my PCs catch diseases.
As for the whole "car in your ass" analogy, I'm not sure it holds true, because there aren't a whole boatload of feats and combat styles and class abilities that revolve around how cool my car (or your ass of holding) is in combat. I think that a class ability or magic item (like that ring mentioned previously) which lets you use your underutilized class abilities is a good thing. This is the same reason my PCs catch diseases.
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Piratecat said:
"So he hid it where he knew they'd never find it. His ass. Five long years, he hid his car up his ass. When he died of dysentery, he passed it on to me. I wore this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass for another three years. And now, little man, I pass it on to you."
Hmm. Personally, if this class ability was causing so many problems, I'd have preferred it if they'd _removed_ it, and replaced it with something else. A good Will save, for example, or bonus feats. The latter also gives the added bonus of allowing much more customisation. That's one reason why I prefer the OA samurai as the basis for the knight-in-shining-armour class; it's so much more flexible than the regular paladin, and doesn't have problems in confined spaces either. And if you really want a horse, it has enough feats that you can take Leadership and get a celestial warhorse with fighter levels.
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Well. I like mount this way more than the old.
Yes, it reeks of Poke all he way, but it's less intrusive.
Many times I did not play a Paladin because my DM told us it was going to be a very dungeon-heavy campaign (we discuss the general theme of a campaign before starting, so that everybody can choose classes accordingly - nobody likes to be a druid in the desert!) and having a horse to carry around in underdark caverns and crevasses was a little unnerving.
With the new rule admittedly all the problems of having a major class ability relying on carrying a large creature around are solved.
Then it's a matter of giving the mechanic aspects a bit of flavour.
I'd sure prefer the whistle thing calling a la Lone Ranger than throwing a ball and shouting "Silvermane! I choose you!!"
BTW, a guy on the Kargatane website's forum suggested an intriguing flavour variant: instead of "calling" the mount the Paladin would "transfigure" an ordinary horse in his special mount.
Battlecat anyone?
Yes, it reeks of Poke all he way, but it's less intrusive.
Many times I did not play a Paladin because my DM told us it was going to be a very dungeon-heavy campaign (we discuss the general theme of a campaign before starting, so that everybody can choose classes accordingly - nobody likes to be a druid in the desert!) and having a horse to carry around in underdark caverns and crevasses was a little unnerving.
With the new rule admittedly all the problems of having a major class ability relying on carrying a large creature around are solved.
Then it's a matter of giving the mechanic aspects a bit of flavour.
I'd sure prefer the whistle thing calling a la Lone Ranger than throwing a ball and shouting "Silvermane! I choose you!!"
BTW, a guy on the Kargatane website's forum suggested an intriguing flavour variant: instead of "calling" the mount the Paladin would "transfigure" an ordinary horse in his special mount.
Battlecat anyone?
Numion
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James McMurray said:
BTW, has anyone ever seen people trying to find a parking spot in a movie, even in a major city? There might be some cases, but usually only if it's important to the plot. Otherwise there always is space. In reality it usually takes a lot of time..
Now the paladins mount works likewise; plot immunity to full parking places!
EDIT: I guess the reason for this is that it would be pretty boring if the main characters spent a lot of time finding a parking space, waxing and refueling their car. I guess enough D&Ders found the paladins mounts similarly boring to tend for.
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Buttercup
Princess of Florin
I wish you had made the poll multiple choice. I'm not happy with the buff spells, with Spell Focus and with Paladin Mounts.
Several of my players never bought the 3e PHB. I had been telling them to hold off, and now I'm afraid it's too late. Besides, I'm sure there will be some changes in 3.5 that I actually like (Harm, for instance). So I'm going to write up a list of changes from 3.5 and other sources that I want to incorporate, and burn them onto a CD with the current SRD. I'll just start handing that out to players instead using the books. So maybe my dissatisfaction with 3.5 will be the impetus that finally makes me use a laptop at the gaming table.
I guess every dark cloud does have a silver lining.
Several of my players never bought the 3e PHB. I had been telling them to hold off, and now I'm afraid it's too late. Besides, I'm sure there will be some changes in 3.5 that I actually like (Harm, for instance). So I'm going to write up a list of changes from 3.5 and other sources that I want to incorporate, and burn them onto a CD with the current SRD. I'll just start handing that out to players instead using the books. So maybe my dissatisfaction with 3.5 will be the impetus that finally makes me use a laptop at the gaming table.
I guess every dark cloud does have a silver lining.
