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Worst series ending concepts

Dark Jezter said:
Prepare to be assaulted by fanboys. ;)

You know, that turning all the Potentials into Slayers smacks of an incredibly desperate move that could have remarkably bad repercussions. Sure, you save the world, but now there's a veritable army of tough and strong teenage girls, without any form of guidance whatsoever.

After all, not all the Potentials are nice and good and whatnot.

They didn't really touch on that in the last season of Angel, unfortunately.

Brad
 

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Dark Jezter said:
Uh oh.

Do you realized what you've done?

You've badmouthed something made by Joss Whedon.

Prepare to be assaulted by fanboys. ;)

I've got your back, Digital M.

I liked Angel more. They used guns, later on. And things changed. They had different havens, characters came and went, they faced really big challenges (Jasmine, f'rex) and met interesting people (Number 5, f'rex).
 

cignus_pfaccari said:
You know, that turning all the Potentials into Slayers smacks of an incredibly desperate move that could have remarkably bad repercussions. Sure, you save the world, but now there's a veritable army of tough and strong teenage girls, without any form of guidance whatsoever.

Its the end of the show. They don't have to worry about those types of questions. :cool:
 

Dark Jezter said:
Personally, I was upset at how after Alan Alda's takeover of the show, every military officer who wasn't a doctor was portrayed as a warmongering fascist who cared nothing about the men he commanded. Because I have friends who are career military officers, I found this portrayal to both inaccurate and insulting.

You have to remember that the show ran while the Vietnam War was still fresh in people's minds so Alda pushing the anti-war side agenda was topical and important. As for your friends, I find it hard to believe that they are insulted by the behaviour of characters on a sit-com. It's not like it was a documentary!

Dark Jezter said:
"Hotlips" became "Margaret" ... Klinger became slick wheeler-dealer ... Everybody turned into sensitive people who cared deeply for each other ... Hawkeye turned from a skirt-chasing borderline alcoholic to a world-weary hero and champion for peace

Don't forget that the show ran for 11 seasons. If the characters did not develop beyond the one dimensional sterotypes from the movie it would not have lasted two years, who would want to watch the same thing every week after week without any change. The only comedy I can think of that got away with this was Seinfeld, and that'e because it was completely unrealistic in its depiction of every single character.
 

A side note about turning all the potentials into Slayers, from a gaming perspective. That's an example I always use in Mage of a Prime 6 level effect: Making a worldwide metaphysical change.

Personally, I thought it was a really cool scene, and I loved the Buffy finale.
 

I second the blind love and adoration for the Buffy finale. They do address it in books after the show, but we aren't really discussing that. I never really cared for Angel in the later seasons, so I wasn't really on board with the ending especially since it wasn't supposed to be an ending.

Although I respect the disagreement with the ending. I had a brief WTF period, but then I got over it and realized that Joss is a genius.
 

greymist said:
You have to remember that the show ran while the Vietnam War was still fresh in people's minds so Alda pushing the anti-war side agenda was topical and important. As for your friends, I find it hard to believe that they are insulted by the behaviour of characters on a sit-com. It's not like it was a documentary!

It wasn't really important. By the time Alan Alda was given control of MASH, anti-war propoganda had been prevelant in books, movies, and music for over a decade. The first few seasons of MASH were a comedic masterpiece, but after Alda took over it became melodramatic, preachy, and full of anti-war messages that had become overused and cliche by that time.

Also, while I did remark that the portrayal of military officers in post-Alda MASH was insulting, that dosen't necessarily mean that myself or my friends were personally insulted by it (boy, did that sound like a politician's answer or what? :) ). I just found it distasteful.

Don't forget that the show ran for 11 seasons. If the characters did not develop beyond the one dimensional sterotypes from the movie it would not have lasted two years, who would want to watch the same thing every week after week without any change. The only comedy I can think of that got away with this was Seinfeld, and that'e because it was completely unrealistic in its depiction of every single character.

Characters can grow and develop over time, but changing Hotlips into one of the main characters and making her a sympathetic character detracted from the little remaining comedic value the series had left at that point.
 

greymist said:
You have to remember that the show ran while the Vietnam War was still fresh in people's minds so Alda pushing the anti-war side agenda was topical and important. As for your friends, I find it hard to believe that they are insulted by the behaviour of characters on a sit-com. It's not like it was a documentary!
Actually, while the show began in the Vietnam era, it ended in the Reagan era. It didn't start to get really preachy until well after the war was completely over. That's what an 11 year run will do. It might not be a documentary, but it does have the odd position of being the popular cultures main image of the Korean War.
 

Regarding the Angel/Buffy endings, I disliked the way both ended, but both had the pleasure of making me hate as opposed to the sheer apathy/loathing I felt for say the ending of other ST series that were not movies or Vogager/Enterprise.
 

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