WoTC books are CHEAP!

apocalypstick said:
Hmm.. yeah. On the other hand, if I buy a DVD, I don't have to go out and buy another copy of it three years later because my copy became "outdated."

It was my VHS collection that I had to do that to. :)

i'm still buying the books, though.
Movie studios do this crap all the time. Put out the movie, then a few months later put out an enhanced version with extra footage integrated in, LoTR for example.

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JoeGKushner said:


What DVDs do you collect?

Horror films. And I suppose that one could argue that owning Friday the 13th I-VIII means that I have 8 copies of essentially the same movie, it's still all good. :)

When I wanted the Halloween SE, I sold my old copy of Halloween back to the store and ended up paying something like $5 for it.

I know it seems like I'm in the anti-3.5 camp, but I really am looking forward to the new books. Really. :)
 

2d6 said:

Movie studios do this crap all the time. Put out the movie, then a few months later put out an enhanced version with extra footage integrated in, LoTR for example.

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The difference being that when I sit down to watch my non-SE copy of LotR (I thought the SE was crap, primarily because of pacing concerns, btw), I don't have six other people at my house who can't watch it because it's not the same version they own.
 

apocalypstick said:


The difference being that when I sit down to watch my non-SE copy of LotR (I thought the SE was crap, primarily because of pacing concerns, btw), I don't have six other people at my house who can't watch it because it's not the same version they own.

You didn't have that issue to begin with :)


The books over a three year span don't cost that much, but it's a value issue, not a cost issue. WoTC needs to offer a compelling reason to spend that money, they need to create the value.

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True. As a matter of fact, this metaphor has gone so far that I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore. I think I'll quit before I start looking dumber than I already do. :)

I'm still buying 3.5.
 

apocalypstick said:
True. As a matter of fact, this metaphor has gone so far that I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore. I think I'll quit before I start looking dumber than I already do. :)

I'm still buying 3.5.

lol, nobody looking dumb here. I'm buying them too, WoTC fanboy that I am.
 

sithramir said:
Simple: If you go to the movies you spend at least 8 dollars per person 40 bucks for a 4 person 1 DM group to go to.

:Shakes Head: I spend 5 dollars to go to the movies. The books at cover price would cost me a total $90 for that I could go to the movies 18 times. I bought them online for $60 but thats still 12 movies or 24 to about 30 hours of enjoyment with no work on my part. I spend at most 5 hours (and probably about 10 out of game) in game a week so about 20 hours a month (60 if you count my prep time). I also buy almost every supplement WotC puts out and many 3rd party products. I spend on avarge about $80 a month on gaming books and supplies (more if you count the food and soda we consume wile playing). If you compare this to my $40 purchase of Half-Life which has given me hundereds of hours of gaming fun and dozens of free supplements the new D&D no longer looks that cheap. I could get the rules for free if I wanted but I like the books. It is not the money I worry about with 3.5 but the discontinuity a quasi 3rd edition rule set could bring and the possible further division of the gaming community. If movie studios put out a movie I thought ill conceived, poorly executed, and excessively exploitative I could avoid the movie or at worst be out 5 to 20 dollars. But if they change D&D it is more like updating software in that it becomes diffcult to play the old version with out a lot of hassel (LAN play only, jury-rigged drivers, arguments about the game version, conversions, and misunderstanding about how the game works).
 

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Camarath said:
I spend 5 dollars to go to the movies. The books at cover price would cost me a total $90 for that I could go to the movies 18 times. I bought them online for $60 but thats still 12 movies or 24 to about 30 hours of enjoyment with no work on my part.

Yes, but that's 24 or 30 hours of enjoyment for you alone. One set of gaming books can provide enjoyment for many people. Gotta think in terms of total person-hours of entertianment, here... :)
 

You can compare them to party games like say Mario Party/Mario Tennis/Super Smash Bros, etc.

Which also haven't changed much in price over the past years. 40 to 50~60 new release price average, with the release of Mortal Kombat 10 years ago at 65$ is still something of an abnormality. Plus the cost of the system. Although only one person of the 'group' needs to purchase the entertainment then. Arguably you still only need one person with all the books, and everyone else can make due with one, but then again everyone needs a controller (but that is reusable at least, possibly reusable with the d20 system theme as well).

Not too sure what my point is yet, but I do feel that prices are currently fairly well justified. Just not sure if my statements support that :).
 

I don't think $30 is too out-of-hand for a 300+ page hardbound book that I will probably read cover-to-cover several times over the course of it's lifespan. Harry Potter &tOotP cost me about that much, and I'll probably only read it once or twice.
 

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