[WOTC] Core Rulebooks to be revised?
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Okay, onto what I suspect will be in the revised DMG and MM:
DMG:
* Better guidelines for creating new feats
* Better guidelines for creating new prestige classes
* Cleaned up NPC stat blocks. (Did you ever notice that the cleric has both a periapt and an amulet - they share the same slot!)
* Better guidelines for creating/pricing magic items
* Better descriptions of the Spot/Listen/Surprise rules
* Some new magic items, just to make the purchase more tempting. (Hopefully, the amulet of mighty fists will also make it into the core rules
).
MM:
* Guidelines for creating new monsters
* Guidelines for monster PCs
* ECLs for common monsters that can become PCs
* Larger font, better formatting.
* Some new monsters, just to make the purchase more tempting for those of us who have it already
Have a look at MM2 for an idea what MM1 revised may look like.
I suspect that both the DMG and MM will be not as "essential" as the upgrade of the PHB, but they will be worth it enough that I will get them.
There are improvements that can be made to the rules and descriptions of the rules. The question is whether it will make the old books useless - I suspect not. It will be desirable to get the newer books, but given the amount of product that exists for the original version, the original version isn't going to be obsolete any time soon!
Consider that we were wondering exactly how many useful rulebooks WotC could print! Not many more, we thought. They wouldn't be able to sell many copies of a revision of the MotP, for instance, thus the revision can't be too radical as to invalidate them.
Another thing of minor import I think they might change in the PHB: Skill Focus to a +3 bonus.
Cheers!
DMG:
* Better guidelines for creating new feats
* Better guidelines for creating new prestige classes
* Cleaned up NPC stat blocks. (Did you ever notice that the cleric has both a periapt and an amulet - they share the same slot!)
* Better guidelines for creating/pricing magic items
* Better descriptions of the Spot/Listen/Surprise rules
* Some new magic items, just to make the purchase more tempting. (Hopefully, the amulet of mighty fists will also make it into the core rules
).MM:
* Guidelines for creating new monsters
* Guidelines for monster PCs
* ECLs for common monsters that can become PCs
* Larger font, better formatting.
* Some new monsters, just to make the purchase more tempting for those of us who have it already
Have a look at MM2 for an idea what MM1 revised may look like.
I suspect that both the DMG and MM will be not as "essential" as the upgrade of the PHB, but they will be worth it enough that I will get them.
There are improvements that can be made to the rules and descriptions of the rules. The question is whether it will make the old books useless - I suspect not. It will be desirable to get the newer books, but given the amount of product that exists for the original version, the original version isn't going to be obsolete any time soon!
Consider that we were wondering exactly how many useful rulebooks WotC could print! Not many more, we thought. They wouldn't be able to sell many copies of a revision of the MotP, for instance, thus the revision can't be too radical as to invalidate them.
Another thing of minor import I think they might change in the PHB: Skill Focus to a +3 bonus.
Cheers!
hhhmmmmm....
Sounds like a good idea, but i cant help feeling a little like if i bought it that i'd be letting them screw me with my pants on.
seems kinda crappy that I have to shell out thrity or forty for these new revised editions each to get all the fixes and enhancements to the core books that i bought over two years ago for twenty bucks each.
Sounds like a good idea, but i cant help feeling a little like if i bought it that i'd be letting them screw me with my pants on.
seems kinda crappy that I have to shell out thrity or forty for these new revised editions each to get all the fixes and enhancements to the core books that i bought over two years ago for twenty bucks each.
I truly think you'll be easily able to ignore the revised books.
The new stuff will act as an incentive to those of us who can't resist this tactic. (I'm definitely going to get them!
)
But the new books will be much, much better for new players, I think. (Remember how confusing the descriptions of AoOs are?)
Of course, I'm theorising, but that's the fun of ENworld, isn't it?
Cheers!
The new stuff will act as an incentive to those of us who can't resist this tactic. (I'm definitely going to get them!
)But the new books will be much, much better for new players, I think. (Remember how confusing the descriptions of AoOs are?)
Of course, I'm theorising, but that's the fun of ENworld, isn't it?
Cheers!
Dingleberry
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I could huff and puff and say I won't buy them because it's only been a few years and blah blah blah - but realistically, if these books have all new artwork, I'd buy them even if they didn't contain any rules revisions.
I don't expect WotC to make the rules changes available for free, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a series of web enhancements that address any inconsistencies between the revised core books and the splatbooks. I expect a lot of the third party publishers will do something similar.
And I also wouldn't be surprised to see a new series of WotC "iconic" modules come out around the same time, since it would help to draw in new players.
I don't expect WotC to make the rules changes available for free, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a series of web enhancements that address any inconsistencies between the revised core books and the splatbooks. I expect a lot of the third party publishers will do something similar.
And I also wouldn't be surprised to see a new series of WotC "iconic" modules come out around the same time, since it would help to draw in new players.
If WotC want to keep the d20 system going, they're going to have to make the rules revisions available through the SRD. Otherwise, everyone will keep wanting the older books.
I very much doubt we'll see any more "iconic" modules - there isn't enough profit in it.
Cheers!
I very much doubt we'll see any more "iconic" modules - there isn't enough profit in it.
Cheers!
Alzrius said:
Is this just me, or does everyone else have problems imagining who the hell they are going to sell a revised MM to?
I mean revised PHB, bring it on. Echoing the sentiments of another poster on grapple, I'd buy it just so I could actually understand how that works.
Revised DMG, hmm, might be interesting but sounds like it'll be mostly flavour and not crunch (PrCs, campaign advice), which isn't really what's essential about the DMG? I think the DMG is pretty well-written anyway, just a tad disorganised, but nothing that can't be solved with a couple of little stickers on top of the pages (I've grabbed the exp table one so many times the ink has gone off).
But seriously, a revised MM? I can understand that they want to upgrade all 3 books and it's probably a good thing for people new to the game, but is this really worth their time and effort? Spacing the lay-out a bit and swapping the intro for the MM2 one, that hardly sounds like it's worth anyone's money. Unless they managed to explain improved grab along the way
.
Squirrel Nutkin
Explorer
People who haven't bought D&D books yet and don't already own a MM, maybe?DustTC said:
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