Wotc: "Planetouched are proficient with all martial weapons"

[Klaus]

From the latest Ask Wizards entry (the little question mark at the bottom of the WotC site):

Q: Do Aasimars and Tieflings (having the outsider type but no racial HD) gain proficiency with all martial weapons?
--Lukas

A: Yes, based on the traits listed for outsiders in the Monster Manual (page 313), they most certainly would be proficient in all simple and martial weapons.
--Chris Lindsay


Boy, hobgoblins get shafted more and more by the other LA +1 races...

 

[wayne62682]

Well, I guess that makes them actually WORTH a +1LA... personally, I always take the LA 0 variant from Player's Guide to Faerun (you lose the outsider subtype), but.. that actually makes it worth a level adjust.. I never bought into WotC's BS that anything which gives you a bonus to what might be a casting stat or Strength is automatically worth a level.

 

[Vegepygmy]

A: Yes, based on the traits listed for outsiders in the Monster Manual (page 313), they most certainly would be proficient in all simple and martial weapons.

Good news for humanoid druids, monks, rogues, and wizards: you all get Simple Weapon Proficiency for free!

 

[Nightfall]

Well what else can you expect by those pesky outsiders always propogating themselves all over the material plane.

 

[frankthedm]

Boy, hobgoblins get shafted more and more by the other LA +1 races...

The Hobgoblin is barely the ECL+1 it is listed as. It gets hosed because the scores are better than PC races [two +2's, no -2's], but the race was not built to be playable.

If snagging a race for the stats and hob was ECL +0, it would be taken it in a heartbeat by anyone who wants a melee rouge. Gobbo stealth bonus, bonus to Dex and Con, No stat hit, medium size, no speed hit, darkvision.

At ECL +1, the race is a touch weak. Especially if the game allows the ecl +1 [should be +2 IMO] poison dusk lizard folk MM3.

 

[Nightfall]

yeah those guys are well above ECL +1.

Hobbys aren't really as good a PC race as say Gnolls are. Well usually.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Good news for humanoid druids, monks, rogues, and wizards: you all get Simple Weapon Proficiency for free!

You forgot the bad news: "...or by character class." D'oh!

As far as the hobgoblin, what can you do about a race that really deserves 0 < LA < 1? It's much more conservative and therefore safer/better to make it LA +1. So what if no PC takes it. If a PC/DM really wants a hobgoblin PC, then such advanced gamers should have no problem coming up with a few tweaks.

 

[Nightfall]

OR maybe finding a way to become a half hobby instead.

 

[Brother MacLaren]

Why not give hobgoblins +2 Str, as well? Is that more or less an appropriate LA +1? Or if that's too much, then Natural Armor +1 (which lets you take the Improved Natural Armor feat as well).

 

[Pinotage]

personally, I always take the LA 0 variant from Player's Guide to Faerun (you lose the outsider subtype).

You know I was looking for that the other day, but couldn't find it. I found the write-up in the appendix, but is there a full write-up of the lesser planetouched elsewhere in the book?

Pinotage