WotC's Head to head monster match! Vote for your favorite!
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demiurge1138
Inventor of Super-Toast
Yeah, I'm voting for the belker, because belkers rock (no, it's not a Belkar. that's the halfling from Order of the Stick). Also, I really hate frenzied berzerkers. Really, really hate them. So no to the troll! He doesn't even have a name!
Demiurge out
Demiurge out
Li Shenron
Legend
Obscure said:
I feel quite the same about the poll's result. I voted the Belkar anyway, if you read its description it really has much more interesting abilities, first of all the one of getting breathed by its victim and then tearing it apart from the inside
! The troll on the other hand is just a huge damage-disher with regeneration, not so original IMHO.
Gez
First Post
First Round
My vote: Gelatinous Cube -- Winner: Big stupid unusable monster.
Second Round
My vote: Marilith -- Winner: Marilith. This is the exception.
Third Round
My vote: Naga druid -- Winner: Ninja-bot.
Fourth Round
My vote: Original Beholder -- Winner: Yet Another Boring Drow.
Fifth Round
Don't care about either...
My vote: Gelatinous Cube -- Winner: Big stupid unusable monster.
Second Round
My vote: Marilith -- Winner: Marilith. This is the exception.
Third Round
My vote: Naga druid -- Winner: Ninja-bot.
Fourth Round
My vote: Original Beholder -- Winner: Yet Another Boring Drow.
Fifth Round
Don't care about either...
mhacdebhandia
Explorer
I'd just like to say that I'm disgusted. The fanbase was doing really well in voting for the interesting choice until it passed up the BEHOLDER FREAKIN' SWASHBUCKLER for a boring, bizarre drow lich iron golem thing, and where are those rules from anyway, jerks? 
Li Shenron
Legend
mhacdebhandia said:I'd just like to say that I'm disgusted. The fanbase was doing really well in voting for the interesting choice until it passed up the BEHOLDER FREAKIN' SWASHBUCKLER for a boring, bizarre drow lich iron golem thing, and where are those rules from anyway, jerks?
If it hadn't been a Drow, would you change your mind? I liked the idea of a golem or any other animated contruct as the phylactery a lot, but the Drow choice wasn't the best. To make it original I'd have had it a Dwarf, which is one of the few I have never seen a Lich of.
OTOH, Beholder and Swashbuckler aren't really feasible. SB makes me think of a cunning and agile swordsman like D'Artagnan, fast of arms and legs. A beholder doesn't have limbs for god's sake, how is it going to work? Sparring with its teeth? Tumbling = rolling while floating?
mhacdebhandia
Explorer
Telekinetic rapier-work, good sir!
Let me put it another way:
Tarrasque versus gelatinous cube just comes down to what you think is more amusing - a nigh-unkillable force of nature or a bizarre mobile dungeon trap.
Lady Bestine, the half-gold dragon/half-pixie isn't that bad on the face of it, but even though I love diversity and weirdness in D&D and don't balk at crazy multiclass combinations and special races I prefer a certain amount of style. Compared to the marilith dervish - which is a scarily logical combination - it had no chance.
The exact same objection applies to Ellith'rin, the half-amethyst dragon/half-iridescent naga. Gee, that combines two obscure creatures for no real reason. It's also a druid/master of many forms, woohooo! Uh, no. The simplicity and elegance of the warforged ninja as a concept - whether or not you like the race or the class - makes it the clearly superior option.
Then we come to Jannys Shadowgaunt - apart from the overuse of drow and spiders, and the mechanically-dubious idea of the use of an iron golem as a lich's phylactery, it still falls under the category of Too Damn Much. It's not "unique" to throw everything you think is cool together in one big mess - the real trick to making weirdness interesting is to make it stylish. A beholder swashbuckler is all about style - he doesn't even need a rope to make a sweeping entrance.
Same reason I voted for the troll frenzied berserker - belkars are abstruse, and there's nothing particularly awesome about making one into a soul eater. A troll frenzied berserker, though, matches tone with tone - trolls already fight with abandon because they're hard to destroy, so it makes sense to me.
The stone giant paladin is given a cooler backstory than the celestian unicorn paladin/sorcerer, and I bet you can guess what my problem with the latter is. At this point, it's coming down to the fact that I can see a stone giant paladin like that being an intriguing NPC in my game - what the hell kind of furry woodland fairytale are you telling with the unicorn?
On the flipside, the simplicity and deadly coolness of a psionic mindflayer beats a redeemed succubus paladin riding a vrock (!!) any day. And I'll vote for Meepo 'cause he's not some chump summon monster I creature.
Let me put it another way:
Tarrasque versus gelatinous cube just comes down to what you think is more amusing - a nigh-unkillable force of nature or a bizarre mobile dungeon trap.
Lady Bestine, the half-gold dragon/half-pixie isn't that bad on the face of it, but even though I love diversity and weirdness in D&D and don't balk at crazy multiclass combinations and special races I prefer a certain amount of style. Compared to the marilith dervish - which is a scarily logical combination - it had no chance.
The exact same objection applies to Ellith'rin, the half-amethyst dragon/half-iridescent naga. Gee, that combines two obscure creatures for no real reason. It's also a druid/master of many forms, woohooo! Uh, no. The simplicity and elegance of the warforged ninja as a concept - whether or not you like the race or the class - makes it the clearly superior option.
Then we come to Jannys Shadowgaunt - apart from the overuse of drow and spiders, and the mechanically-dubious idea of the use of an iron golem as a lich's phylactery, it still falls under the category of Too Damn Much. It's not "unique" to throw everything you think is cool together in one big mess - the real trick to making weirdness interesting is to make it stylish. A beholder swashbuckler is all about style - he doesn't even need a rope to make a sweeping entrance.
Same reason I voted for the troll frenzied berserker - belkars are abstruse, and there's nothing particularly awesome about making one into a soul eater. A troll frenzied berserker, though, matches tone with tone - trolls already fight with abandon because they're hard to destroy, so it makes sense to me.
The stone giant paladin is given a cooler backstory than the celestian unicorn paladin/sorcerer, and I bet you can guess what my problem with the latter is. At this point, it's coming down to the fact that I can see a stone giant paladin like that being an intriguing NPC in my game - what the hell kind of furry woodland fairytale are you telling with the unicorn?
On the flipside, the simplicity and deadly coolness of a psionic mindflayer beats a redeemed succubus paladin riding a vrock (!!) any day. And I'll vote for Meepo 'cause he's not some chump summon monster I creature.
Yair
Community Supporter
Tarrarsque beats silly cube dungeon-cleaning utensile anyday, any time. I mean, it isn't that great, but when compared to a CUBE OF JELLY?!!
The half gold-draon pixie is just not an interesting encounter to have - another pointless good NPC. The marilith at least will show off an impressive whirlwind of death, so makes an interesting (if one-time) opponent NPC. She wins.
The half amysyst-dragon half iradescant naga is justa cocophony of sights and images. But I literally cringe whenver I hear ninja, and warforged aren't precisely my favorite race. The aberration wins over the construct, narrowly.
Using an iron golem as a phylactrary is a cool idea, IMO, although the drow bit is not really relevant. The swashbuckling beholder is silly, just silly, and I don't want to put silly monsters in my game. I've got enough mayham with just silly players. Drow lady wins, hands down.
Belker and soul taking... sounds like a cool, themed, challenge. The troll berseker is just a melee challenge, the berseker levels add nothing and a plain old troll is just not as interesting as the soul-eating belker. Belker wins.
The stone giant hulring holy bricks is just silly again, but the goodie unicorn is banal. It's a toss between them, I think the giant wins by a thin margin by at least being reasonable without the bricks.
Succubus paladin on vrock is just munchkin and doesn't make sense. Mind flayer psions are always cool, if banal. Mind flayer wins.
And Meepo wins the last match, no doubt.
The half gold-draon pixie is just not an interesting encounter to have - another pointless good NPC. The marilith at least will show off an impressive whirlwind of death, so makes an interesting (if one-time) opponent NPC. She wins.
The half amysyst-dragon half iradescant naga is justa cocophony of sights and images. But I literally cringe whenver I hear ninja, and warforged aren't precisely my favorite race. The aberration wins over the construct, narrowly.
Using an iron golem as a phylactrary is a cool idea, IMO, although the drow bit is not really relevant. The swashbuckling beholder is silly, just silly, and I don't want to put silly monsters in my game. I've got enough mayham with just silly players. Drow lady wins, hands down.
Belker and soul taking... sounds like a cool, themed, challenge. The troll berseker is just a melee challenge, the berseker levels add nothing and a plain old troll is just not as interesting as the soul-eating belker. Belker wins.
The stone giant hulring holy bricks is just silly again, but the goodie unicorn is banal. It's a toss between them, I think the giant wins by a thin margin by at least being reasonable without the bricks.
Succubus paladin on vrock is just munchkin and doesn't make sense. Mind flayer psions are always cool, if banal. Mind flayer wins.
And Meepo wins the last match, no doubt.
Darmanicus
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