[MENTION=6749462]ad-hoc[/MENTION] Did you completely miss the point when I said that I hadn't asked you to convince me that my opinion is wrong? That is something you took upon yourself. If you really feel the need to "win" an argument against somebody's opinion then you need to be able to make a coherent point instead of just trying to argue about the argument. Anyways, thanks for the diversion, but it is time to drive home from work now. If you can't sleep without "winning" then please consider myself convinced of your point. BTW, what was your point again? Whatever it was, consider me convinced.