You are all GODS!!
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A few things. First of all: Hi! 
Secondly, we have the means to create followers...sort of. We will require some 'raw materials.' Polymorph Any Object has a permanant duration when used to transform within a 'kingdom,' say, from animal to animal...that's how Silhouette created a werewolf from a fey wolf that she chased here from Faerie. Of course, that's the raw mechanical explanation...the game world will reflect it as something more poetic.
Sil also has access to Miracle, which can in theory accomplish nearly anything...albeit at a price in xp, and with GM oversight.
More importantly though, these aren't domains everyone has, and so we need some way for everyone to get followers. I can think of a few ways. One would be to simply rule that in these primordial times, the gods have powers to shape the world that go beyond the Rules As Written, and that so long as what we do is in concept, it can be done. The world is, now, as hot steel...ready to be pounded into shape. Once it 'cools,' the powers of the gods contract a bit to match the rules.
Another way would be some kind of quest. Like, Lavaria wants fire giants. She needs to go mingle with the Titans, ferreting out those who are willing to change, and working out a way to convey them to the world's firey center.
Another way is...unintended accident. Sort of like Silhouette, sometimes the actions of gods have consequences that they themselves don't expect or plan for. Perhaps Duretep discards some of his 'popcorn,' and accidentally creates a fertile species of edible plants, ready to sustain humanoid life. Maybe some fragment of the One/Many drops off and achieves independent sentience, then begins to spread out in colonies of Formians on its own. I already plan for Silhouette to 'accidentally' become the origin of lycanthropy in both its natural and cursed forms.
As for separate threads, I think that could work, with some effort. It would save some headaches as we don't have to follow multiple, mutually independent stories through one thread. It makes interacting a bit trickier...but in general if we interact we'll either be in the Grey Mist thread, or one of us 'guesting' in the thread of someone else....so it could work. Lets just keep posting in OOC to make sure we all know what page we're all on.
I agree that the Library, as the creation of the Forger, is a bit much. Like the city, it steals a bit of our thunder if the Forger does too much. Ideally, he's some primal force of creation, speaking seldom and seldom seen. He's known through his works. The Library can still work though, as a mystery. There could be rumors of a place...perhaps even an entire plane...where knowledge is stored. It could even be a sort of "elemental" plane of Knowledge, so vast and complex that it's all but useless unless you know -exactly- what you're looking for. Not the creation of any known agency, it simply is. The Platonic ideal of "libraryness" sort of.
Alternatively, you could introduce NPC gods.
Oh! I had an idea too.
Confronting the whole, "We are gods, what can challenge us," angle. What if sometimes we play not our deities, but rather divine chosen champions? Gods often choose to act through intermediaries. Especially as we ascend divine ranks, having less powerful (but also less risky to use) champions and avatars will become necessary. Then, if we want to plunder some library, we wouldn't go personally...we'd send Moktar The Bold...perhaps a demigod in his own right, but not invested with divine ranks. Or whatever. The idea needs some fleshing out, but just in general...
Whuddya think?
Secondly, we have the means to create followers...sort of. We will require some 'raw materials.' Polymorph Any Object has a permanant duration when used to transform within a 'kingdom,' say, from animal to animal...that's how Silhouette created a werewolf from a fey wolf that she chased here from Faerie. Of course, that's the raw mechanical explanation...the game world will reflect it as something more poetic.
Sil also has access to Miracle, which can in theory accomplish nearly anything...albeit at a price in xp, and with GM oversight.
More importantly though, these aren't domains everyone has, and so we need some way for everyone to get followers. I can think of a few ways. One would be to simply rule that in these primordial times, the gods have powers to shape the world that go beyond the Rules As Written, and that so long as what we do is in concept, it can be done. The world is, now, as hot steel...ready to be pounded into shape. Once it 'cools,' the powers of the gods contract a bit to match the rules.
Another way would be some kind of quest. Like, Lavaria wants fire giants. She needs to go mingle with the Titans, ferreting out those who are willing to change, and working out a way to convey them to the world's firey center.
Another way is...unintended accident. Sort of like Silhouette, sometimes the actions of gods have consequences that they themselves don't expect or plan for. Perhaps Duretep discards some of his 'popcorn,' and accidentally creates a fertile species of edible plants, ready to sustain humanoid life. Maybe some fragment of the One/Many drops off and achieves independent sentience, then begins to spread out in colonies of Formians on its own. I already plan for Silhouette to 'accidentally' become the origin of lycanthropy in both its natural and cursed forms.
As for separate threads, I think that could work, with some effort. It would save some headaches as we don't have to follow multiple, mutually independent stories through one thread. It makes interacting a bit trickier...but in general if we interact we'll either be in the Grey Mist thread, or one of us 'guesting' in the thread of someone else....so it could work. Lets just keep posting in OOC to make sure we all know what page we're all on.
I agree that the Library, as the creation of the Forger, is a bit much. Like the city, it steals a bit of our thunder if the Forger does too much. Ideally, he's some primal force of creation, speaking seldom and seldom seen. He's known through his works. The Library can still work though, as a mystery. There could be rumors of a place...perhaps even an entire plane...where knowledge is stored. It could even be a sort of "elemental" plane of Knowledge, so vast and complex that it's all but useless unless you know -exactly- what you're looking for. Not the creation of any known agency, it simply is. The Platonic ideal of "libraryness" sort of.
Alternatively, you could introduce NPC gods.
Oh! I had an idea too.
Confronting the whole, "We are gods, what can challenge us," angle. What if sometimes we play not our deities, but rather divine chosen champions? Gods often choose to act through intermediaries. Especially as we ascend divine ranks, having less powerful (but also less risky to use) champions and avatars will become necessary. Then, if we want to plunder some library, we wouldn't go personally...we'd send Moktar The Bold...perhaps a demigod in his own right, but not invested with divine ranks. Or whatever. The idea needs some fleshing out, but just in general...
Whuddya think?
Myth and Legend
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Aye once we grow in Divine Ranks we can make Proxies. Avatars are created via SDA. Creating followers? I'd take all of the above 
GlassEye
Adventurer
Thanks, Voda, I had forgotten that tOatM had already taken care of plant life. Animal life can come later and some now exists in the oceans anyway from when the glacier melted.
Shayuri, lots of good ideas there!
The 'Primordial Age' would be a great way to let us do some things that are usually limited to more powerful deities without boosting our rank way up beyond where HM wants us to be. This limitation to what we can do has been a source of dissatisfaction for me; I would readily embrace the idea that our power lessens as the primordial age ends for the ability to do a few cool (and IMO necessary) things now. Once we get more toys to play with we won't really need the powers of creation as much (though I still think Divine Rank 1 necessary to play even remotely competent deities; this inability to transport my character to her own home without using mundane travel is a bit annoying).
Barring that, we all still seem to have methods to come up with followers. I don't have access to Polymorph or Miracle so that won't work for me but if it gets Silhouette followers or a portal to the Realm of the Fey where you can bring in followers then great! Ubariya has the souls to birth that she has carried from her origin world, TOatM can propagate Mini-One's, Heliasillyel can unload her followers from her spelljammer, Lavaria can toast some titans into fire giants, and Duretep can spin some out of dreamstuff, I guess (or however you all have planned to get your followers).
And, I don't object to playing a follower/champion at times.
Shayuri, lots of good ideas there!
The 'Primordial Age' would be a great way to let us do some things that are usually limited to more powerful deities without boosting our rank way up beyond where HM wants us to be. This limitation to what we can do has been a source of dissatisfaction for me; I would readily embrace the idea that our power lessens as the primordial age ends for the ability to do a few cool (and IMO necessary) things now. Once we get more toys to play with we won't really need the powers of creation as much (though I still think Divine Rank 1 necessary to play even remotely competent deities; this inability to transport my character to her own home without using mundane travel is a bit annoying).
Barring that, we all still seem to have methods to come up with followers. I don't have access to Polymorph or Miracle so that won't work for me but if it gets Silhouette followers or a portal to the Realm of the Fey where you can bring in followers then great! Ubariya has the souls to birth that she has carried from her origin world, TOatM can propagate Mini-One's, Heliasillyel can unload her followers from her spelljammer, Lavaria can toast some titans into fire giants, and Duretep can spin some out of dreamstuff, I guess (or however you all have planned to get your followers).
And, I don't object to playing a follower/champion at times.
GlassEye
Adventurer
Two things:
1) There are reasons why the things Ubariya gave birth to are the way they are (besides 'that's the way I wanted it,' though that is also true). Just pointing this out because certain events could make for some interesting complications in the future.
2) If anyone wishes to take advantage of Ubariya's birthing and have her give birth to something specific that they want to see in our world but don't have a real reason/method to getting it then feel free to use my character. I hereby activate your remote controls and grant you all permission to write Ubariya an extended birth scene if you wish. Note that Ubariya is a goddess of the transmigration of souls and so the bodily forms don't have to be sentient, they just have to contain a soul/spirit of some sort...
1) There are reasons why the things Ubariya gave birth to are the way they are (besides 'that's the way I wanted it,' though that is also true). Just pointing this out because certain events could make for some interesting complications in the future.
2) If anyone wishes to take advantage of Ubariya's birthing and have her give birth to something specific that they want to see in our world but don't have a real reason/method to getting it then feel free to use my character. I hereby activate your remote controls and grant you all permission to write Ubariya an extended birth scene if you wish. Note that Ubariya is a goddess of the transmigration of souls and so the bodily forms don't have to be sentient, they just have to contain a soul/spirit of some sort...
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