You Bastard Sword!

[Black Knight Irios]

You still don't get it. You don't have any profiency with a gnome fighter with bastard sword unless you take the EWP for the sword.
Having read my prior posts you must be able to think about my opinion which is the same as the FAQ.

 

[Crothian]

I see, Bastard sword is an EW except for medium sized creatures who can use it 2 handed as a martial weapon.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I see, Bastard sword is an EW except for medium sized creatures who can use it 2 handed as a martial weapon.

Or for Large creatures, who can use it one-handed as a martial weapon.

Maybe a Small Xill, Athach, or Girallon could use it three-handed as a martial weapon?

-Hyp.

 

[Black Knight Irios]

I'm quite unsure about the fact what it is for a large creature, looking at the FAQ excerpt I would rule a large creature with MWP could wield it one handed since one hand of a large creature is nearly the same as two hands for a medium sized creature and so forth.

 

[Crothian]

Maybe a Small Xill, Athach, or Girallon could use it three-handed as a martial weapon?

-Hyp.

I think you might want to write the sage on that one, and do they get strength x2 damage instead of strength x1.5?

 

[DiFier]

Bastard Swords....

What's better to use to swing them one-handed, Exotic Weapon Prof Feat? or Monkey Grip Feat? Can it be done?

I had another question but I can't think of it, Thank you

Actually isn't the maonkey grip feat useful because you can use it with all weapons. Use a great sword 1 handed. ect.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Re: Re: You Bastard Sword!

Actually isn't the maonkey grip feat useful because you can use it with all weapons. Use a great sword 1 handed. ect.

"This feat can be taken multiple times, each time with a different weapon."

-Hyp.

 

[DiFier]

So it isn't useful for a bastard sword.

I know that it is cool to weild a bastard sword 1 handed cause then you can use a shield. plus you look real cool. but are there any other reasons?

I have a Wiz6/ftr2/spell sword3 who uses a bastard sword. He doesn't have the strength prereq to weild the bastard sword 1 handed but I don't see him doing it. having a free hand is kinda required for casting spells. (unless they are channeled thru the sword)

 

[Guilt Puppy]

From what the rules, and FAQ, say, plus some common sense:

Medium character, MWP only, two-handed: No penalty.
Medium character, MWP only, one-handed: -4 non-proficiency penalty.
Medium character, MWP only, Weapon Focus, two-handed: +1 bonus from weapon focus.
Medium character, MWP only, Weapon Focus, one-handed: -4 penalty, no bonus (character is not proficient with this usage of the weapon; Weapon Focus cannot apply)
Medium character, MWP only, Weapon Focus, Monkey Grip one-handed: -4 penalty, no bonus (character is not proficient with this usage of the weapon; Weapon Focus cannot apply; Monkey Grip, because Weapon Focus is a prereq, cannot apply)
Medium character, EWP, one-handed: As any other weapon.

Small character, MWP only, two-handed: -4 non-proficiency penalty.
Small character, MWP only, one-handed: Cannot use.
Small character, MWP only, Weapon Focus, two-handed: -4 non-proficiency penalty (Weapon Focus does not apply).
Small character, EWP, two-handed: No penalty.
Small character, EWP, WF, two-handed: +1 bonus.
Small character, EWP, one-handed: Cannot use.
Small character, EWP, WF, Monkey Grip, one-handed: -2 penalty for Monkey Grip (not sure if WF still applies; check Monkey Grip)

And an extrapolation:

Large character, MWP only, one-handed: No problem.
Large character, MWP only, Weapon Finesse: Cannot take Weapon Finesse: Weapon not considered light..
Large character, EWP, Weapon Finesse: No problem.
(Also see how this comes into play with two-weapon fighting)



(Not everything here is clearly supported by the letter of the rules, but it all seems like a pretty common-sense extrapolation of the rules, which -- for purposes of proficiency -- treat the Bastard sword as if it were two different weapons. The Martial one is Large. The Exotic one is Medium.)

 

[Hypersmurf]

From what the rules, and FAQ, say, plus some common sense:
Medium character, MWP only, one-handed: -4 non-proficiency penalty.
Small character, MWP only, two-handed: -4 non-proficiency penalty.

Depending, of course, on which answer from the current FAQ you use.

The most recent addition to the FAQ says, for a Medium character using it one-handed : no EWP, no go.

-Hyp.