Your preferred name for the Queen of Spiders

[Mark]

Your preferred name for the Queen of Spiders?

"Leggy"

 

[Goblyn]

Eilistraee is possibly the worst word I've ever heard. Thanks for the experience, Rystil

Anyway, why split hairs? Let's just call her Nyarlathotep and be done with it.

 

[Faraer]

My previously posted timeline of the spelling of Lolth's name in the Realms -- detailed version of what Sean posted:

1978: Gary Gygax introduces Lolth in G and D modules. Ed Greenwood incorporates her in the Realms
1987: Lolth mentioned in Forgotten Realms Campaign Set
1988: Bob Salvatore (mis)spells the goddess 'Lloth' in The Crystal Shard; it sticks in his books
1991: Ed's FOR2 The Drow of the Underdark discusses Lolth, noting 'Lloth' as a regional spelling of Menzoberranzan and Uluitur
1995: Elaine Cunningham's Daughter of the Drow uses Lloth for Menzoberranzan
1998: Definitive writeup of Lolth published in Demihuman Deities, repeating the regional spelling information from FOR2
2001–: 3E standardizes Realms plurals and word variants, removes Lloth variant: thus in Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, Faiths and Pantheons, novels

 

[Nightfall]

Psychic Warrior,

Uhm not entirely sure if you're being sarcastic or not...but rereading it I'd say no.

But I do find your idea of each demi-god being a smaller aspect of the Eight (remember Denev isn't a goddess. Now if you meant Nemorga, I could see that unless you meant the former 9th, Urkanthus. Then I'd say no since he's dead.)

Kaeyoss,

Some explanations and stuff:

The REASON I think it would make them unique is that each one would be more tribal, much like wood elves are, and thus each have different aspects BUT would be able to recognize other tribes as being "wrong but still an elf."

Belsameth, is the NE Scarred Land (greater) goddess of Madness, Murder, Intrigue, Darkness, Magic, Death, Nightmares, and Werecreatures. Her title is Belsameth the Slayer. Well she's a) killed two titans, beings that would make all but maybe Ao tremble, even though they aren't divine. b) Established the Cult of the Ancients, an elite group of assassins. c) has on more than one occasion, killed lots of people just for the fun of it, since she is the Lady of Murder.

What you don't make fun of Paladine some times? Or maybe Boccob? Come on. I mean seriously some times even the gods of a setting need to be knocked off a peg or two. I mean it's not just Lolth, it's Mordian, Corry(sp), and others that have been, while a long staple of D&D lore, just get a little old. Some times it fun to have deities that are...unlike what you'd expect D&D deities to be.

Ari,

Ilmater is, yes, a Finnish God, but female. Illmater in FR, is a male god who I think is kind of wuss but there you are.

 

[Gez]

The Forgotten Realms use a number of names from Finnish gods, but it's all confused in its head. Kiputyto took the name of Talona, while Ilmatar sold her name to Issac the Jug, a refugee from Newhon.

Anyway, why split hairs? Let's just call her Nyarlathotep and be done with it.

Nyarlathotep would be offended to be likened to that black-widow wannabe.

 

[Nightfall]

Who wouldn't be Gez? I mean I'd be offended if I was likened to her in ANY fashion.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

What you don't make fun of Paladine some times?

That's not the class, but the god, right? Is he from Krynn or Athas? I never get that straight, and, come to think of it, never had real exposure to either Dragonlance or Dark Sun.

So he rarely even enters my mind.

Or maybe Boccob?

Same thing. The only reason I know more about Boccob than about Paladine is because they use the GH stuff as standard D&D. I don't care about GreyHawk at all. I have one vanilla D&D setting, and that is all I need. If I'm going to leave the game world I know so much about, it's not for more of the same.

I mean it's not just Lolth, it's Mordian, Corry(sp), and others that have been, while a long staple of D&D lore, just get a little old. Some times it fun to have deities that are...unlike what you'd expect D&D deities to be.

Well, that's the long and the short of it, isn't it? They're staple. I don't really want Moradin to tell his dwarves to start the Dwarven Mafia. Those 4 foot guys in expansive Armani suits living in Little Shanatar, driving around in fancy carriages and making people offers they cannot refuse. (In fact, I want him to die screaming along with all his gritsucker minions, but that's beside the point) I don't want Corellon to ditch war and take on the mantle of environmental activism. I don't want Garl instruct his gnomes to build little spheres containing a variant of the figurine of wondrous power, which can speak its own name and the name of its spell-like abilities.

I simply want the FR to remain the FR. I have no problems with fresh new concepts and campaign settings (I loved Rokugan d20 for its Asian flair, Midnight for the prevailing mood and new twist on the races and half-breeds, and so on). But then again, I want a consistant, timeless campaign setting I can always return to, which will remain as it is, just for nostalgia's sake.

I remember seeing the character portraits of BG2 for the first time. I hated them. Everyone had his eyebrows or nose or whatever pierced, or looked like he was from the FR-equivalent of Jamaica.

Illmater in FR, is a male god who I think is kind of wuss

He's a really weird choice for a patron deity. Someone who takes on suffering for others can't really be considered a wuss, really.

 

[glass]

Where do drow/Lolth come up in the Al-Qadim stuff? [just curious]

IIRC, it's just mentioned in passing, something about 'evil, dark skinned elves who live beneath the ground and worship the spider goddess Loethe'.

Sadly, I don't have my Land of Fate bs or Arabian Adventures anymore, so I can't check.


glass.

 

[Nightfall]

Kaeyoss,

Paladine WAS a god in Dragonlance. He was the leader of the Panethon of good before he willingly removed his divinity so that Takhisis could have hers removed as well.

Uhm I guess you're missing my point. The game world COULD make subtle references, albeit in SL case, poking fun at Lolth, without ruining the flavor of it being different.

Trust me, Scarred Lands, while semi-generic in some instances, ISN'T going to be confused with Greyhawk, Dragonlance or any other world. And no, that's not because the others are that well-defined. I feel Scarred Lands can and will be even more well defined WITHOUT hindering GM insights/changes.

 

[Staffan]

That's not the class, but the god, right? Is he from Krynn or Athas? I never get that straight, and, come to think of it, never had real exposure to either Dragonlance or Dark Sun.

A good rule of thumb: If you can't quite recall whether a god is from Dark Sun or another setting, it's not from Dark Sun. Dark Sun doesn't have gods.