Sultans of Smack

[CRGreathouse]

Re: Save Smack

Ok, here comes a challenge then:

- Only Basic + Splats
- No potions or scrolls
- No prestige classes
- Best saves you can get (save smack)

Can anything following those rules have more than 35 on all saves? or more than 40 in one?

How about 40 in all saves?

ex-Brd2/Clr1/Drd1/Mnk14/Pal1/Rog1 (paladin taken last)
Base saves: +15/+14/+16
Str: whatever
Dex: 18 + 4 tome + 6 gloves = 28
Con: 18 + 4 tome + 6 amulet = 28
Int: whatever
Wis: 18 + 4 tome + 2 ioun stone = 24
Cha: 18 + 5 tome + 5 level = 28

Other equipment: +5 cloak of resistance, luckstone
Total equipment value: 582,500 gp (77% of baseline)

Feats: Deflect Arrows, Great Fortitude, Improved Unarmed Strike, Improved Trip, Iron Will, Lightning Reflexes, and any other 4.

Fort +15 base + 9 Con + 9 Cha + 5 cloak + 1 luckstone + 2 Great Fortitude = +41
Ref +14 base + 9 Dex + 9 Cha + 5 cloak + 1 luckstone + 2 Lightning Reflexes= +40
Will +16 base + 7 Wis + 9 Cha + 5 cloak + 1 luckstone + 2 Iron Will = +40

I would use the halfling (for +1/+2/+1 saves), but the multiclass penalty was restrictive.

 

[DM_Matt]

Ok, here is the OA Soul-Selling Smack. This character has beomce a Maho, taking both associated prestige classes, and pleased evil sufficiently that he has become an Akutenshi. The highlights of the smack are the Maho-Bjuin Crimson Road ability (which lets a character advance in iterative attacks as a monk advances in iterative unarmed attacks), the Maho-Tsukai's ability to convert previous spellcaster levels into Maho-tsukai levels and combine their spell lists, the Akutenshi ability for Maho-bujin levels to grant +1 spellcaster level for Maho-Tsukais, the Frenzied berserker's Improved Power Attack (-2 for +3), the Iajutsu Master's ability to add his cha bonus to each IJ die, and the way in which the berserkers's Deathless Frenzy works well with undead immunities. Enjoy.

Str: 18+5=23
Dex: 18+6 = 24
Con: -
Int: 18
Wis: low
Cha: 18+6= 24
Taint: 13

Race: Human with the Akutenshi template (ECL+2)
Level: 20
Classes: Maho-Bujin3/Maho-Tsuki 4(maho-tsukai 1,converted Clr1 (Mysticism), converted sorc1, converted druid 1) +3 virtual levels for spellcasting purposes from template)/Iajutsu Master5/Barb1/Fighter2/Frenzied Berserker5

Akutenshi traits: Fast Healing 3, Undead, Damage Reduction 30/+3, 8 Arms, Tail, Maho, darkvision 120 or fly at 160 (poor)

EQ
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Cloak Cha +6 36k
Gloves Dex +6 36k
Katana +1 Spellblade (Disintegrate)
Corrosive Flaming Frost Acidic Burst
Focus (+8) 99.28k
7 Katana's +1 Corrosive Flaming Frost 112k
Wand of Tenser's Transformation 90k
Wand of Rightious Might (Use Act) 37.5k
Necklace of Divine Favor (+6)(Use Act) 36k
Wand of Brillient Aura 25c 60k
Wand of Rightious Wrath o/t Faithful 25c 52.5k
Wand of Rage Spell 25c 45k
Wand of Greater Aspect of the Deity 25c 60k
Wand of GMW (50c) 16.875k
3 Lesser Rods of Empower 48.6k
Lesser Rod of Chain Spell 27.5k
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759.855


Skills:
Iaijutsu Focus: 23 ranks+14 insight+2 Skill Focus+7 Cha = +46

Feats:
Free: Multidexterity, Multiweapon Fighting, Remain Conscious,Weapon Finesse(Katana), Supreme Cleave, Improved Power Attack
Bonus: Skill Focus (Iaijutsu Focus), Weapon Focus (Katana), Power Attack, Cleave
Level: Exotic Weapon Prof (Katana), Great Cleave (Katana), Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Intimidating Rage, Destructive Rage, Improved Critical (Katana)

Initiative: +15

Relevant Spells to cast on self: Improved Invisability, Haste, Divine Power (while only holding main katana so the others dont grow),. use wands for tensers trans, rightious might, greater aspect of the deity, smite first attack, 3x empower Bulls Str...gmw main katana, chain it to the rst with the rod...keen main katana...chain to the rest with the rod
Str: 23+13(enh)+4(enlargement)+4(GAD)= 44 (+17)
Cha:24+2GAD
+6 (Luck), +10 dmg (B aura)+1(atck)(WFocus)+5(enh)+ Power Attack 30+2 rrotf
BaB: 51/31/31/28/25/22/19/16/13/10/7/4 offhands 25/25/25/25/25/25/25, Tail 19 (ALL ARMOR IS IGNORED ON ALL ATTACKS, AND IMP INVIS WILL GENERALLY DEPRIVE OPPONENTS OF THEIR DEX BONUS)
DMG:
1 Attack at at 2d6+1d6+1d6+1d6+1d6+9d6+72(IJF...average roll10) +10BA +45PA +6Luck +17Str +5rnh +2rrotf+20 smite)
11 attacks at 2d6+1d6+1d6+1d6+1d6+9d6+72 (IJF...average roll 10)+10BA +45PA+ 6Luck+ 17Str+ 5rnh +2rrotf.
7 attax at 1d10+1d6+1d6+1d6+9d6+72(IJF...average roll 10) +10BA +45PA+ 6Luck +9Str +5enh +2rrotf...
1@1d6+9+6+1
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If all attacks hit ..assume normal odds of crits, so say, 3.5 with main attack, 2.5 with secondarys, none with tail or the smite.....

SO....270d6+9d10+3885 on the first round.
Thats a range of 4164 to 5595...so median dmg should be 4883 points. And this assumes that he did not get surprise.

I am sure that there must be some slight miscalculations here, since I have tweaked it so much. After his attacks, he can activate rage and frenzy at the beginning of the enxt round use his hasted action for a rage spell, granting him +14 strength. At that point, Dealthless Rage kicks in. It prevents him from dying until his rage is up. instadeath is an exception, but he is undead (no death magic, cant charm him) and his spellblade renders him immune to disintegrate, so he is prtactically invincable fir a oeriod of time. He can also keep a wand of harm around to max out his hp during his hasted action. This (and the influct spells that he can cast) prevents opponents form running away and waiting for his frenzy to end and him to die. Pretty much the only way this thing dies is if he is taken out just as his frenzy ends, or if he loses his sword AND gets disintegrated, or loses his healing stuff. For an enemy that necessarily can pelt him from afar, he can just get out with a wand/scroll of TP w/o E.

 

[reapersaurus]

easy things to bump up the saves, CR:

give him a maximized or empowered Eagle's Splendor to add 5 or 6 CHA (saving money if you reduce the +5 tome to a +4 tome), make the cleric domain the Charm domain (+4 to CHA for 1 minute), and give him Armor of Command (+4 to CHA).

That'll add 6 or 7 to ALL the saves.
Also give him the Luck of Heroes feat

 

[reapersaurus]

re: the unreadable smackdown

2 things:
1) Is anyone else getting sick of Iajitsu Focus being used in Smackdowns?
2) How is this PC using Wands of all these spells? Especially the Rage spell from DotF which is ONLY a Madness domain spell?
The Smack seems impressive, but there's no way I'm going to be able to interpret it - quick - let's cast Summon Rules Lawyer IX (special OA template)

 

[Jeremy]

Well because the insane thing about that baddie is he gets caster levels to every spell casting class he had. So he's got every spell on there on his spell list except for Rage if it's only the madness domain and greater aspect if it's only Mysticism... Still incredible. And the iaijutsu smack shows up because it's a great way to get a LOT of damage in the first round.

That's absolutely astounding Matt. Very nicely done. You might want to further clarify how exactly you do all that and get a full attack in the first round. Or are you going with the "whenever the opponent is flatfooted" iaijutsu interpretation? In any case, please edit in any corrections or improvements you get from other posters when you get the chance.

<goes straight into the archive of bad guys>

 

[DM_Matt]

Re: re: the unreadable smackdown

2 things:
1) Is anyone else getting sick of Iajitsu Focus being used in Smackdowns?
2) How is this PC using Wands of all these spells? Especially the Rage spell from DotF which is ONLY a Madness domain spell?
The Smack seems impressive, but there's no way I'm going to be able to interpret it - quick - let's cast Summon Rules Lawyer IX (special OA template)

1. Ok, fine, IJ is excellent for smackingg and in some situations rediculously powerful.

2. I accidently deleted the Madness as his second domain before his cleric class was converted to Maho....It is thus on his list. His list includes everything that he could potentially cast as a Sorc, Druid, or Cleric before he converted the levels to Maho-Tsukai. Note that rage is an afterthought for the round after.

 

[RogueJK]

Re: Re: re: the unreadable smackdown

I accidently deleted the Madness as his second domain before his cleric class was converted to Maho....It is thus on his list. His list includes everything that he could potentially cast as a Sorc, Druid, or Cleric before he converted the levels to Maho-Tsukai. Note that rage is an afterthought for the round after.

Keep in mind that both Madness and Mysticism are Prestige Domains. You can't take Prestige Domains at first level as a Cleric. It requires taking levels in a PrC which grants access to a Prestige Domain.

You'll need to switch out those 2 domains, which removes the Greater Aspect of the Deity, as well as the Rage spell, from the Smack.

[Edit] Note that, depending on how low your Wisdom is, you may not be able to cast Cleric spells. See if you can figure out what his Wisdom would be. [/Edit]

 

[CRGreathouse]

give him a maximized or empowered Eagle's Splendor to add 5 or 6 CHA (saving money if you reduce the +5 tome to a +4 tome), make the cleric domain the Charm domain (+4 to CHA for 1 minute), and give him Armor of Command (+4 to CHA).

That'll add 6 or 7 to ALL the saves.
Also give him the Luck of Heroes feat

No can do, reaper. Luck of Heroes won't stack with the luckstone and isn't allowed; eagle's splendor and the Charm domain aren't allowed either.

I'm not sure if armor of command is legal, but if it is it can be added, increasing saves by 2 points across the board.

 

[DM_Matt]

Re: Re: Re: re: the unreadable smackdown

Keep in mind that both Madness and Mysticism are Prestige Domains. You can't take Prestige Domains at first level as a Cleric. It requires taking levels in a PrC which grants access to a Prestige Domain.

You'll need to switch out those 2 domains, which removes the Greater Aspect of the Deity, as well as the Rage spell, from the Smack.

[Edit] Note that, depending on how low your Wisdom is, you may not be able to cast Cleric spells. See if you can figure out what his Wisdom would be. [/Edit]

Good points....thus....He can drop a level of Maho-Bujin for a level of Contemplatve and gain Mysticism, then convert that into a Maho-Tsikai level...everything is the same, except that he can cast GAD.

Rage, as I said, is an afterthought for after the giant IJ attack, becuase you cant rage while IJing.


Wisdom-Wise, assume a start of 18. He has a -6 to wisdom, so kill the rage spell wand to give him the money for an item of +6 enhancement. Add one inherant from a Wish cast from a wand or scroll and he's set.

 

[DM_Matt]

Well because the insane thing about that baddie is he gets caster levels to every spell casting class he had. So he's got every spell on there on his spell list except for Rage if it's only the madness domain and greater aspect if it's only Mysticism... Still incredible. And the iaijutsu smack shows up because it's a great way to get a LOT of damage in the first round.

That's absolutely astounding Matt. Very nicely done. You might want to further clarify how exactly you do all that and get a full attack in the first round. Or are you going with the "whenever the opponent is flatfooted" iaijutsu interpretation? In any case, please edit in any corrections or improvements you get from other posters when you get the chance.

<goes straight into the archive of bad guys>

thx for the compliments...I wil edit more in later. the full attack can be gotten by walking up to someone invisibly, or by using a scroll or wand of teleport, or, since he has quick draw, suddenly initiating combat.