You are all GODS!!

[Rathan]

Why DO we have class levels anyways? I've been wondering that for a while now. It feels... out of place really unless we made characters out all class levels and what such and just ascended to godhood or something like that. As it stands now it just feels like something taped to a rules set if you know what I mean

 

[Voda Vosa]

Perhaps I don't understand the question, but I think we are supposed to progress in the classes, as to founders of each particular class.
You can think it's just when the god characters got interested in creating things that they took a path like the one of the druid, or wizard, as to a particular focus to its flavour. Like you said your character is good at casting spells, hence she'll be a sorceress for example, and as she gains levels she'll be THE sorceress, then one all sorceress look at and want to be her. But for the moment, you have to create those sorceresses.

 

[Voda Vosa]

Heh, I can't avoid to feel like those priests in the churches, preaching nonsenses with metaphors.

 

[Rathan]

Only one problem with that VV... I'm not the only sorcerer being played here.. *winks* again.... doesn't make much sense....

 

[Roman]

Note: I think a wish is not even close to the ability of the original Alter Reality SDA. Epic Eschew Materials obviating the need for XP and material components does not exist to the best of my knowledge and wish cannot duplicate higher than 6th spells from non-wizard/sorcerer spell lists (and only 8th level spells from the wizard/sorcerer spell list). It also does not allow the free addition of any and all metamagic feats regardless of if the caster has them or not. Hence, even if a wish were castable at will, it would pale in comparison to the power of the original Alter Reality SDA. That's not to say that an ability like that is bad - as I said, I like it... a lot - it does give off the divine "I can do almost anything" vibe that is appropriate, but since we are playing with classes as well - I just think it would be appropriate to give it additional requirements and reduce some of the freebies... I still think the ability should be take-able. I mean, this SDA does what a combination of other SDAs (Arcane Mastery, Spontaneous Wizard Spells, Divine Spellcasting) don't come close to doing even in combination with full spellcaster levels. Hence, I think it only makes sense that they be the pre-requisites for taking this SDA.

Anyway, how about this as an SDA instead Alter Reality (which could still be kept in addition to this, but with the added requirements):

Alter Portfolio
Requirements: Charisma 29
Description: As the original Alter Reality, but applies only to spells with a spell descriptor appropriate to the portfolio (let's say 2 per god). Hence, for example, the lava portfolio would grant original Alter Reality for all spells that have the fire and/or earth descriptors.

 

[Roman]

Why DO we have class levels anyways? I've been wondering that for a while now. It feels... out of place really unless we made characters out all class levels and what such and just ascended to godhood or something like that. As it stands now it just feels like something taped to a rules set if you know what I mean

Perhaps I don't understand the question, but I think we are supposed to progress in the classes, as to founders of each particular class.
You can think it's just when the god characters got interested in creating things that they took a path like the one of the druid, or wizard, as to a particular focus to its flavour. Like you said your character is good at casting spells, hence she'll be a sorceress for example, and as she gains levels she'll be THE sorceress, then one all sorceress look at and want to be her. But for the moment, you have to create those sorceresses.

I am not completely sure why we have class levels, but I think Voda Vosa probably got the right idea. So your character could progress as the first sorceress, gain all the spellcasting-related SDAs and ultimately finish off the progression at its pinnacle with the Alter Reality SDA. At least that's how I would imagine it would work in a classed system.

In a classes system, it would be sort of perverse if one could take the Alter Reality SDA right away - would make all of those subsequent spellcaster levels and spellcasting SDAs pointless. In a system where gods are so far above normal that classes don't apply, of course, Alter Reality would make sense right from the start.

 

[Rathan]

Actually he's 100% correct Roman... there is an epic feat called Ignore Material Components that allows you cast spells with no XP cost or material component at all...

 

[Voda Vosa]

Holy man, where the hell are you?

At this moment we need him to tell "Yes" or "No" to many things.

 

[Voda Vosa]

Of course I'm right, I'm always right!

 

[Rathan]

Alter Portfolio
Requirements: Charisma 29
Description: As the original Alter Reality, but applies only to spells with a spell descriptor appropriate to the portfolio (let's say 2 per god). Hence, for example, the lava portfolio would grant original Alter Reality for all spells that have the fire and/or earth descriptors.

I like this alternative suggestion actually.... it seems more fair and makes it customizable to each God or Goddesses concept... I second it...