The Hexblade (Essentials Warlock) is up!

[Ryujin]

Its Elric with a light sabre!

Not necessarily. Remember how Stormbringer could fly around on its own and would occasionally leave ol' Elric hanging. Sounds remarkably like a summoned physical weapon. I guess you could skin it any way that you like though

 

[TerraDave]

But there are all those pictures with it in a scabbard, or at least Elric having a scabbard!

 

[Ryujin]

But there are all those pictures with it in a scabbard, or at least Elric having a scabbard!

It says that you manifest your Pact Weapon in a minor action. It doesn't say anything about it disappearing. I guess that means you can keep it around and put it in a scabbard

 

[Scribble]

It says that you manifest your Pact Weapon in a minor action. It doesn't say anything about it disappearing. I guess that means you can keep it around and put it in a scabbard

It says it persists until you let it go: "Your pact weapon persists until you no longer hold either it or the implement, or until you dismiss it as a free action."

I think though that something like Elric's sword would be an artifact. Possibly with a storyline like maybe it was the first pact blade, that gained the ability to manifest without a warlock, and gained sentience- and maybe make it usable by Warlocks as a pact blade.

 

[Ryujin]

It says it persists until you let it go: "Your pact weapon persists until you no longer hold either it or the implement, or until you dismiss it as a free action."

I think though that something like Elric's sword would be an artifact. Possibly with a storyline like maybe it was the first pact blade, that gained the ability to manifest without a warlock, and gained sentience- and maybe make it usable by Warlocks as a pact blade.

I missed the "until you are no longer holding it" but if it's the "original", then the lesser Pact Blades could be members of the swarm of black swords, that I vaguely remember in one of the later stories.

Or, as I said earlier, it could be flavoured any way that you like. I see no reason why the sword MUST be banished when you're done with it. Minor action to summon or minor action to draw, it seems immaterial to me. Stormbringer flew into Elric's hand, on occasion, which is very summony (or swordmageish) to me.

 

[Scribble]

I missed the "until you are no longer holding it" but if it's the "original", then the lesser Pact Blades could be members of the swarm of black swords, that I vaguely remember in one of the later stories.

Or, as I said earlier, it could be flavoured any way that you like. I see no reason why the sword MUST be banished when you're done with it. Minor action to summon or minor action to draw, it seems immaterial to me. Stormbringer flew into Elric's hand, on occasion, which is very summony (or swordmageish) to me.

Yeah I don't have any real problem with re-flavoring stuff...

The only issue I have with making it a physical blade is that you then leave yourself open to questions like:

What if it gets broken/lost/stolen can a new one be made?

Not a huge isue, but still something to be on the lookout for,since the rules as written don't really take that into account.


Might be neat to say the pact blade is a part physical part arcane... Like he uses a normal physical blade and imparts all the summoned stuff into it. So it could be any sword, but in the hands of a hexblade it becomes the pact blade.

 

[Ryujin]

Yeah I don't have any real problem with re-flavoring stuff...

The only issue I have with making it a physical blade is that you then leave yourself open to questions like:

What if it gets broken/lost/stolen can a new one be made?

Not a huge isue, but still something to be on the lookout for,since the rules as written don't really take that into account.


Might be neat to say the pact blade is a part physical part arcane... Like he uses a normal physical blade and imparts all the summoned stuff into it. So it could be any sword, but in the hands of a hexblade it becomes the pact blade.

Broken? Can't be. It's a manifestation of an extra-dimensional and ancient power. It's a personal artifact; neither material, nor wholly magical. It's not really there, or rather just a part of it is. It would take a major god to dent it.

Lost or stolen? Wave your hand and by the will of the sword, it finds its way back to you through the planes. A minor trick, for such otherworldly power.

If you need to make a new one then either the godling/demon it's part of is dead, or you are.

 

[Klaus]

But there are all those pictures with it in a scabbard, or at least Elric having a scabbard!

Dude.

The scabbard *is* the implement!

 

[Plane Sailing]

Broken? Can't be. It's a manifestation of an extra-dimensional and ancient power. It's a personal artifact; neither material, nor wholly magical. It's not really there, or rather just a part of it is. It would take a major god to dent it.

And there lies the problem. If you give a player an indestructible weapon you'll soon find them using it to prop up collapsing wall traps and 101 other kinds of cheese you hadn't intended.

The law of cool and the law of unintended consequences crash into themselves at times like this!

The advantage of the way that it has been written is that it isn't leaving open loopholes like this ( although scribbles last suggestion is a flavourful one)

Cheers

 

[Ryujin]

And there lies the problem. If you give a player an indestructible weapon you'll soon find them using it to prop up collapsing wall traps and 101 other kinds of cheese you hadn't intended.

The law of cool and the law of unintended consequences crash into themselves at times like this!

The advantage of the way that it has been written is that it isn't leaving open loopholes like this ( although scribbles last suggestion is a flavourful one)

Cheers

It's at those times when the Law of Cool and the Law of Unintended Consequences collide, that I invoke the Law of Wrath from Above. Misuse the boon of a great power and it gets taken away, until you've learnt your lesson. You don't want to tee off Stormbringer, Eater of Souls.