The Hexblade (Essentials Warlock) is up!

[Klaus]

Not only would he be able to do that, but he would also be able to do DIS.

That isn't a given, since the Pact Weapon draws on the enchantment of the offhand implement. But it *could* open some decent capabilities. Once the eMulticlass rules are known, a fey hexblade could multiclass into Ranger for some Dex-based two-weapon attacks.

 

[CasvalRemDeikun]

That isn't a given, since the Pact Weapon draws on the enchantment of the offhand implement. But it *could* open some decent capabilities. Once the eMulticlass rules are known, a fey hexblade could multiclass into Ranger for some Dex-based two-weapon attacks.

I don't see how it would be a problem. Will have to wait and see though.

 

[thewok]

This class may finally codify the line between implement and weapon keywords. We know that you don't get proficiency bonuses to implement attacks. But, the hexblade introduces a new thing in that it has powers that include both the weapon and the implement keywords.

I think we'll probably get a ruling at some point that basically says the following:

When using a weapon as an implement, it does not count as a weapon.

For example, when using Soul Eater, the hexblade would use a rod (or wand) to satisfy the Implement keyword, while using the Blade of Annihilation to satisfy the Weapon keyword.

But, if the hexblade has AIP (heavy blades), then he'd have, say, a scimitar as an implement, and the blade of annihilation as a weapon. The blade is being used as a weapon and not an implement, so it does not count for dual implement spellcasting. The scimitar is being used as an implement and so does not count as a weapon for two weapon fighting or defense.

 

[WalterKovacs]

Did they really have to give Warlocks a pet? I thought they were trying to distance themselves from WoW.

Again, I say this alot. I'm glad they simplified the primary stats but will they do the same thing with the original class?

They've not changed the powers for clerics, paladins, ranger or warlocks yet, it's unlikely they will mass errata them to be A shaped instead of V shaped (although, they will probably wait until the class compendium if they choose to do so). With those classes at least, they have a ton of splat material between the X Power books, dragon magazine, and in the case of warlocks, tons of extra packs (They have 6 packs, 2 purely Charisma, 2 purely Con and 2 mixed. Of the last two they've put out enough star pact stuff to allow it to go either way, although they should make a charisma based at-will, and the dragon-sorc pact gives the player the option to build either way).

I highly doubt they will massively errata the old content to bring it in line with new design ideals, and instead merely provide new options instead.

 

[The Little Raven]

I don't see how it would be a problem. Will have to wait and see though.

DIS requires two magic implements, and the created pact blade is not a magic implement. AIP might make it an implement, but it doesn't make it a magic implement, especially in light of the explicit statement that the pact blade cannot be enchanted (and thus, cannot be made into a magic weapon or implement).

 

[CasvalRemDeikun]

DIS requires two magic implements, and the created pact blade is not a magic implement. AIP might make it an implement, but it doesn't make it a magic implement, especially in light of the explicit statement that the pact blade cannot be enchanted (and thus, cannot be made into a magic weapon or implement).

That is a good argument. Though a Pact Blade item would still qualify for TWF, I would think.

 

[The Little Raven]

That is a good argument. Though a Pact Blade item would still qualify for TWF, I would think.

I would rule that it does, since it's a weapon that has the property that it acts as a warlock implement, which to me would suggest it counts at both at the same time.

 

[thewok]

I would rule that it does, since it's a weapon that has the property that it acts as a warlock implement, which to me would suggest it counts at both at the same time.

An interesting thing came up in the WotC CharOp forum. It was pointed out that the Blade of Annihilation is not a weapon at all, as it is labelled a Warlock item. It is an item that has certain properties like damage dice, proficiency bonus, etc. that can be used as a weapon.

Going along with this, the hexblade would not need heavy blade expertise or weapon focus, but would use the expertise and focus related to the implement used to summon the pact weapon.

The text in question is:

"You can make weapon attacks with your pact weapon, using its proficiency bonus and the appropriate damage die. Your pact weapon shares your implement’s enhancement bonus, critical hit effect, properties, and powers. The weapon cannot be enchanted."

Why point out that you can make weapon attacks with the pact weapon if it already is a weapon? It is worded as if it is giving special persmission to do such a thing.

 

[Ryujin]

Given the way that people try to weasel the wording and intent of various items, they're likely just going for some specificity in the description.

 

[TerraDave]

Elric of Melnibone has finally landed.

Its Elric with a light sabre!

Did they really have to give Warlocks a pet? I thought they were trying to distance themselves from WoW.

See above.


Looks fun to play.