New Star Trek TV Series In Development

[GMforPowergamers]

Honestly, his instant promotion to Captain was the most jarring thing for me in the movie. I can forgive a lot of technical and time-travel-logic errors in the name of the genre.

But this, no. A promotion and instant placement on any ship he wants? Sure. But not automatic command. Command is, in large part, about long term judgement, leadership, and people-management, not just how one handles a single crisis.

I agree, he gets a write off becuse of cource kirk is captain... but I think it could have been doen better


[sblock] if the hacking thing had been cleared up and he was graduated as a lt, then decker requests him, and puts him on the fast track to command...keep giving him field promotions (along with the rest of the key crew) then at the end giving him a ship as a commander or some such would make mroe since... then the next movie could open with him (years later) promoted to captain.[/sblock]

 

[Kzach]

The coincidence of Kirk being on the same planet as Spock...okay...that was merely hollywood, nothing in ST:Countdown on that, at least from what I recall.

Actually it's somewhat explained in the movie itself. Fate. And if that somehow blows your suspension of disbelief wad then I have only two words for you: Star Trek.

 

[MarkB]

Yeah, for being not just on the same planet, but actually within walking distance of both Spock and Scotty, 'fate' is probably about the only answer possible.

One thing I keep wondering about that timeline is whether the older Spock will practise a "prime directive" in regards to events that are still likely to happen in the altered timeline. Like, will he tell Starfleet "Oh, this planet-eating ship is going to come heading through these star systems in a few years. Have a spare starship handy to throw down its gullet and overload it", or "Oh yeah, in about twenty years get ready for a brief flurry of space probes. You'll need to look up some old NASA radio codes for the first one, and for the second, start learning to speak whalesong."

Actually, maybe he wouldn't. No point getting sent off to the Federation funny farm when he's trying to rebuild his race.

 

[Ed_Laprade]

Star Trek Countdown explains some of those items but you still have one or two remain.

If it ain't in the movie (or book, as the case may be), it don't exist.

 

[aurance]

Actually it's somewhat explained in the movie itself. Fate. And if that somehow blows your suspension of disbelief wad then I have only two words for you: Star Trek.

Be that as it may, there's a point in any story where fate is just an excuse for shoddy writing. This happened in the episodic Star Trek quite a bit as well, and I found those episodes as goofy as the movie. But there were plenty of episodes that were thought provoking and didn't have to involve ridiculous fate carte blanche.

 

[Kzach]

If it ain't in the movie (or book, as the case may be), it don't exist.

It actually was in the movie (the Klingon capture) but it was edited out before release. It's on the DVD extras.

Be that as it may, there's a point in any story where fate is just an excuse for shoddy writing. This happened in the episodic Star Trek quite a bit as well, and I found those episodes as goofy as the movie. But there were plenty of episodes that were thought provoking and didn't have to involve ridiculous fate carte blanche.

Normally I would agree with you but like everything in movie-making, there are exceptions and I believe this is one of them.

If it had been entirely random and there to fix a plot-hole or shoehorn a particular element into the story, I'd say you were right. But it was written in as a pretty major and thematic element to the ongoing story of an emerging and separate timeline. It was bringing a metaphysical element into the milieu by saying that some things are just 'meant to be'.

Heavy-handed? Sure, but not entirely without merit and I think it suited the story.

 

[Thunderfoot]

Heck, go for the real McCoy, and use Kzinti. "Speaker to Vulcans" would be hi-frikkin-larious.

Your ideas intrigue me and I want to subscribe to your newsletter...

Actually, one of the reasons that the Trek cartoon is considered non-canon is because they actually had an episode with the Kzhinti...

 

[Umbran]

Actually, one of the reasons that the Trek cartoon is considered non-canon is because they actually had an episode with the Kzhinti...

Manny Coto had a plan to have the Kzinti show up in Enterprise's 5th season, which would have gone a long way to canonize the cartoon.

 

[hopeless]

Okay how about?

Manny Coto had a plan to have the Kzinti show up in Enterprise's 5th season, which would have gone a long way to canonize the cartoon.

Have they given any thought about having another animated series?

 

[MarkB]

Have they given any thought about having another animated series?

I'm guessing that getting broadcast rights to something the size, age and complexity of the Star Trek franchise as it currently exists is a pretty hefty initial outlay. I don't think an animated series would generate enough of a return to be viable.