D&D 5E Removing the Once per Wedding Limit on Solemnization in Weddings in 5e

[FireLance]

I think it is a travesty that 4e had a hard limit of one solemnization per wedding. After all, how difficult is it to say the words, "I now pronounce you [character] and spouse"?

I think the theory behind the one solemnization per wedding limit is that solemnization is awesome. Hence, you don't want it done too often or it loses its awesomeness. On the other hand, you don't want weddings to end without being solemnized, either. Hence, by making solemnization a wedding power, they ensured that it would happen just once per wedding.

I think that is just lazy game design. I hope that takes one or more of the following more realistic approaches:

1. A character can make as many attempts to solemnize the wedding as he wants, but each subsequent attempt is made at a cumulative -5 to represent the fact that he is becoming increasingly fatigued and the celebrants are becoming more wary of his tricks.

2. The character just makes at-will speeches. Solemnization only happens on a natural roll of 16-20.

3. The character has to build up to a successful solemnization. For example, he might have to first succeed on his "Do you, [character1] take [character2] to be your lawfully wedded spouse?" check, followed by a second success on his "Do you, [character2] take [character1] to be your lawfully wedded spouse?" check before he can attempt a solemnization check.

This might mean that some weddings end without being solemnized, and others end after being solemnized multiple times, but I think that's more realistic.

Right?

 

[Yora]

If you troll, at least put some effort into it.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I think it is a travesty that 4e had a hard limit of one solemnization per wedding. After all, how difficult is it to say the words, "I now pronounce you [character] and spouse"?
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This power I actually didn't mind so much. After al, it isn't that you can't go through the motions of the solemnization again during the wedding, it is just a meaningless gesture at that point so doesn't get any mechanical support.

I never understood why lover's quarrel was a daily power (and i dont get why it does 1 [weapon] damage).

 

[FireLance]

If you troll, at least put some effort into it.

I did! I made sure I put it into the right forum!

 

[Minigiant]

Solemnization?
Least of the silly arbitrary wedding rules.

The drink limit of Constitution modifier + tier limes made no sense.

Each of my uncles can drink more than 4 drinks per wedding.

And don't bring up the extra actions granted by successful dance checks because you can't use those actions to drink unless the DM lets you.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

I find the expectation that the cleric class be used for solemnization to be problematic. What if no one wants to play the cleric? What we need are more classes with solemnization powers that can fill in for the cleric for variety.

 

[FireLance]

I find the expectation that the cleric class be used for solemnization to be problematic. What if no one wants to play the cleric? What we need are more classes with solemnization powers that can fill in for the cleric for variety.

Unfortunately, I think is going to do away with the concept of power sources and roles, so I don't think we will see a solemnizer with the Civil or Legal power sources. Or maybe they will have a Justice of the Peace class and allow it to solemnize without using Divine spells? I not sure how well that will go down with players who prefer a more traditional approach, though.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Unfortunately, I think is going to do away with the concept of power sources and roles, so I don't think we will see a solemnizer with the Civil or Legal power sources. Or maybe they will have a Justice of the Peace class and allow it to solemnize without using Divine spells? I not sure how well that will go down with players who prefer a more traditional approach, though.

I think I could support a return to the Civil power source, even if it isn't explicitly called out as such. The Bureaucrat just makes for a fun class, and I could certainly see a Justice of the Peace being added. We just need to avoid the over-the-top power creep that came with the Notary Public prestige class *shudder*.

 

[Piratecat]

Okay, screw this NDA thing. 5e solemnization is pretty much the best thing in the game. Sure, it makes the cleric a little over-powered, but civil bonds have amazing synergies with magic rings and the paladin vow. I think it's going to work wonderfully.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Yes, but are civil bonds plus magic rings equal to divine bonds plus magic rings? 'Cause historically D&D has favored divine bonds and I'd like to see the options balanced -- the last thing we need are more over-powered clerics.

Also, are paladins still solemnizing at four levels below the cleric? It almost eliminates their value as a solemnizer.