D&D 5E (2014) I Don't Like Damage On A Miss

[Empath Negative]

Because of the dwarven theme.


A miss should be a &%$#&@ miss. This sort of thing is incredibly detrimental to suspension of disbelief.

You miss!

but you kill the big bad evil guy anyway!



*spit*


If that's their design philosophy permits that kind of idiocy I see little more than failure on the horizon for them.

 

[GX.Sigma]

It's not like a "miss" ever meant an actual miss anyway.

 

[Transformer]

What about the in-game explanation do you find insufficient? Your fighting style is so aggressive that even when you "miss" you still hammer your opponent hard and wear him down some physically. Seems like a perfectly acceptable way of modeling that to me.

 

[jadrax]

It's not like a "miss" ever meant an actual miss anyway.

Just like a 'Hit' never indicated an actual hit.

 

[Szatany]

You miss!
but you kill the big bad evil guy anyway!

Maybe slayer is so angry that whenever he misses, he kicks his target in the nuts.

 

[variant]

What about the in-game explanation do you find insufficient? Your fighting style is so aggressive that even when you "miss" you still hammer your opponent hard and wear him down some physically. Seems like a perfectly acceptable way of modeling that to me.

Yep, I agree. I personally like the Slayer theme and how feats really mean something in 5e.

 

[CleverNickName]

I Predict Fifth Edition Will Be a Success

...in SPITE of the dwarven theme. I agree with you, that it is both overpowered and anti-climatic. But I choose to stay optimistic about it...I believe the game designers will see the error in their ways, and will revise it before the final rules set.

Chin up, bro. This is just the first playtest.

 

[renau1g]

Because of the dwarven theme.

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Yup, I agree with you. The entire edition will be a failure because of one theme in a beta test of the games rules. Definitely agree...

 

[enrious]

What about the in-game explanation do you find insufficient? Your fighting style is so aggressive that even when you "miss" you still hammer your opponent hard and wear him down some physically. Seems like a perfectly acceptable way of modeling that to me.

Actually given that Hit Points don't simply represent physical damage capacity, he doesn't even need to wear down the opponent physically.

He could quite easily be damaging the enemies' will to fight with those close shaves.

But to the OP - try decaf bro.

 

[Empath Negative]

What about the in-game explanation do you find insufficient? Your fighting style is so aggressive that even when you "miss" you still hammer your opponent hard and wear him down some physically. Seems like a perfectly acceptable way of modeling that to me.

If it was lightning... hey, I could understand. Lightning has an explosion of superheated air around it. That'd do some damage even if you missed.

But this is an axe. And with an axe you either connect or you don't. Because even if this guy is fighting against something WAY out of his league, like a guy that has shingles of adamantium for armor across his entire body and a forcefield to boot... he'll still take damage.

I don't care how aggressive your fighting style is, it wouldn't let you cleave through a guy wearing adamantium armor... even when you miss.

Which is the key here... HE NEVER EVER ACTUALLY MISSES. All of his attacks land according to this ability. He is guarenteed a minimum of x damage per round, so long as he swings. Is he swinging at a bird in a tree? Strength Damage. Is he swinging at a brick wall and STILL missed the brick wall? Well it just shattered.


Sorry, they can do bette rthan this weak ass ability. It breaks disbelief.