D&D 5E Will the inclusion of the option of DoaM cause you to not buy 5e.

[Umbran]

The inclusion of writers who think that DoaM is a good idea would be cause to not buy 5e, I suppose, regardless of whether this particular niche ability is there or not.

Wow. The inclusion of such writers is reason, regardless of their actual output? Really?

How about we judge the game by what's actually on the pages of the rulebooks? Crazy idea, I know....

 

[machineelf]

I just pretend that DOAM is not really a miss, but just their way of saying that this attack never actually misses but sometimes only inflicts a glancing blow for less damage. And there I can have my cake and eat it too, with no loss to story realism, and I can retain my happiness. Yeah, instead of calling it a miss, I wish they would have just described it this way, "This attack can never miss. A miss represents a glancing blow and still does damage."

 

[Mistwell]

ANOTHER Damage on a Miss Poll?

NO.

Just say no to Damage on a Miss polls. We've had enough. Every conceivable opinion on the topic has been discussed, discussed again, and again, and again, and again.

And they ALL end with people being angry at each other over as stupid little rule that only appears already as just an option for a handful of classes, and which the designer of the game already implied is doubtful to make it into the game in it's current form anyway.

Come on guys, there has got to be more important and interesting stuff to discuss about a new edition of D&D at this point.

 

[Morrus]

ANOTHER Damage on a Miss Poll?

It's important to remember that just because you've had a conversation before doesn't mean that someone else isn't allowed to have it. You can avoid conversations you've had before. Popular subjects are popular subjects, and folks are welcome to discuss them.

Hell, in the pub the other day I heard some guys slagging off Justin Bieber! I totally had that conversation in that very pub last year!

 

[Mistwell]

It's important to remember that just because you've had a conversation before doesn't mean that someone else isn't allowed to have it. You can avoid conversations you've had before. Popular subjects are popular subjects, and folks are welcome to discuss them.

Hell, in the pub the other day I heard some guys slagging off Justin Bieber! I totally had that conversation in that very pub last year!

Not that I think there needs to be another thread about this, I think I said all I need to back about 8 times ago.

I expect it to come up in play at least as often as some dude makes another thread about it on a forum somewhere.

Good grief, again? Hasn't this topic been done to death already?

Well I was not the first to say that same thing in this very thread. Nor was I the second. I wasn't even the third to say it, [MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION]. No, I was the fourth - making half the thread responses at the time the same response - this is too many threads about this topic. HALF.

It was June 3, 2012 when we had a poll that there were too many polls about Damage on a Miss. We're not far off from the 2 year anniversary of people voting that we don't need any more of these polls TWO YEARS. And more polls every week since it seems.

Every third thread about 5e these days is about damage on a miss, in some way. Every single person in this thread that has responded, has already voiced their opinion on the topic in another thread.

And if you will look, I bet you the most number of three day bans come from those threads, and moderator warnings.

If you can show me someone who is saying something new, or even someone who hasn't themselves said the same thing they're saying right now, then great. But this isn't different people discussing the topic...this is the same people discussing the same topic, with just a different thread title. Often because the last one got smacked down from Umbran.

You tell me when enough is enough? When we get to 100 threads about the same topic? 500? 1000 threads? Tell me if there is any line you think is appropriate to draw, when we've done a topic too many times, and maybe it's time to combine the threads together into fewer threads. It used to be two. That used to be the rule - no duplicate threads, and they get combined if there is even 2. That's obviously gone the way of the dinosaurs, but I think it was fair of me to mention the issue when it got to be roughly 1/3 of the 5e threads, when half the responses were the same as my response - which is that we don't need another poll on this topic.

 

[EnglishLanguage]

Course not. What mind of person would I have to be to ragequit an edition based solely on the addition of one easily ignoreable mechanic available to only a limited number of classes?

 

[Stalker0]

I can't see one single thing stopping me from playing any game or edition...I can always houserule things.

Now if I find myself having to do a houserule spree because of rules I don't like, thats when I wouldn't use an edition.

 

[Morrus]

Well I was not the first to say that same thing in this very thread. Nor was I the second. I wasn't even the third to say it, [MENTION=1]Morrus[/MENTION]. No, I was the fourth - making half the thread responses at the time the same response - this is too many threads about this topic. HALF.

And a year ago now we already had a poll on whether we had done too many polls on damage on a miss. A year. And more polls every week since it seems.

Every third thread about 5e these days is about damage on a miss, in some way. Every single person in this thread that has responded, has already voiced their opinion on the topic in another thread.

And if you will look, I bet you the most number of three day bans come from those threads, and moderator warnings.

If you can show me someone who is saying something new, or even someone who hasn't themselves said the same thing they're saying right now, then great. But this isn't different people discussing the topic...this is the same people discussing the same topic, with just a different thread title. Often because the last one got smacked down from Umbran.

You tell me when enough is enough? When we get to 100 threads about the same topic? 500? 1000 threads? Tell me if there is any line you think is appropriate to draw, when we've done a topic too many times, and maybe it's time to combine the threads together into fewer threads. It used to be two. That used to be the rule - no duplicate threads, and they get combined if there is even 2. That's obviously gone the way of the dinosaurs, but I think it was fair of me to mention the issue when it got to be roughly 1/3 of the 5e threads, when half the responses were the same as my response - which is that we don't need another poll on this topic.

Even when we get to a million threads. There's no line. If people are interested in a topic you're bored of, they're not obligated to stop discussing it. Popular topics are popular topics.

My suggestion is to not read threads about subjects you're tired of. But discussing a topic you're bored of isn't actionable. Hell, some folks deride us for repeatedly talking about D&D!

That used to be the rule - no duplicate threads, and they get combined if there is even 2.

There's never been a rule. Identical threads tend to get merged, but not always. And if they're long, they don't tend to be. Merging is a resource management issue, not a boredom issue.

 

[Minigiant]

Meh.

I haven't met a rpg with at least 6 things I hate about it. And 6 is low.

One mechanic or rule won't bother me.

I watch National League baseball DEPSITE them doing foolishness like making pitchers bat. I mean they can't hit. Who wants to watch easy outs... (insert DH rant here).

 

[dd.stevenson]

My suggestion is to not read threads about subjects you're tired of. But discussing a topic you're bored of isn't actionable. Hell, some folks deride us for repeatedly talking about D&D!

More of a meta question, but is there/will there be a return of the hide thread functionality from the old forums?