D&D 5E What are the Roles now?


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The roles described on page 16 of the 4TH edition PHB match 5e characters pretty well.

Not really. I mean you can make a 5e character to match that 4e role, but it's misleading because you can use the same 5e class to match a few of the 4e roles based on the way feats and backgrounds and subclasses work. I.e., I could use a fighter in 5e and depending on how I built him, could be a leader, defender, or striker. Heck, one of my 5e fighters plays the role of a thief as well (urchin background and skulker feat).
 

Well everyone is entitled to their opinion... Just out of curiosity... what role would a Battlemaster Fighter correspond to?

Depends.
Center of attention?
Avoid the danger and hit VIPs?
Damage multiple foes and/or weaken enemies?
Inspire, heal, aid, and advise?
Not really. I mean you can make a 5e character to match that 4e role, but it's misleading because you can use the same 5e class to match a few of the 4e roles based on the way feats and backgrounds and subclasses work. I.e., I could use a fighter in 5e and depending on how I built him, could be a leader, defender, or striker. Heck, one of my 5e fighters plays the role of a thief as well (urchin background and skulker feat).

So he's a... striker.
Role character match.
 
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Not really. I mean you can make a 5e character to match that 4e role, but it's misleading because you can use the same 5e class to match a few of the 4e roles based on the way feats and backgrounds and subclasses work. I.e., I could use a fighter in 5e and depending on how I built him, could be a leader, defender, or striker. Heck, one of my 5e fighters plays the role of a thief as well (urchin background and skulker feat).

Yep this is my view of it and is why I don't see value in trying to shoehorn the 5e classes into 4e roles.
 


So he's a... striker.
Role character match.

But the 4e books says he should be a defender. Which is what we're (or at least I) am getting at. 4e shoehorned classes into a particular role by telling you what role each class is. 5e isn't like that at all.

Also, he's not a striker at all. he doesn't do any more damage than any other standard fighter.
 

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