After Waterdeep what should be the next FR adventure?

[gyor]

No announcement, there is a joke in Dragon Heist about Volo's work on his next book stalling because his knowledge of Spirit's being mostly of the alcoholic variety.

It's mentioned more then once in WH, once would suggest Volo's Guide to Spirits and Spectres is an just a joke in or in setting book, multimentions makes it an Easter egg for an up coming D&D 5e book.

 

[Parmandur]

It's mentioned more then once in WH, once would suggest Volo's Guide to Spirits and Spectres is an just a joke in or in setting book, multimentions makes it an Easter egg for an up coming D&D 5e book.

It is an Easter Egg, but not necessarily for an actual book. I rank the possibility as firstly, a Chris Perkins vintage joke, secondly, a reference to an upcoming D&D themed cocktail recipe book, and thirdly maybe a reference to a game book. Maaaaaybe.

 

[Parmandur]

So, I just listened to the latest Dragon Talk episode on the way in to work with Matt Forbeck about his new Endless Quest books. They spoke briefly about the tentative plans for two new ones next year: one, a Swashbuckler Rogue, which feeds pirate speculation. The other, a Cleric, because of where she is "but I shouldn't say more, but you know what I'm talking about, Greg." So, we have our first vague hint at the next storyline. Forbeck dropped the first hints about Acherack in Dungeonology, too...

 

[gyor]

They already have done this for Fiends and Githyanki. A whole book like those two about Dragons and Dragon like entities is entirely doable, and would sell.

A Spooooky one about Undead (through in Lycanthropy for fun) would be very doable. Throw in charts to help come up with a unique Lich or Vampire? Playable undead options? Actual rules for playing werebeasties?

Volo's Guide to Spirits and Spectres will likely fill this role, although Spirits is a much broader category then just undead (which spectres is likely referring to). Your familiar or Paladin Steed are considered spirits for example as is anything summoned by a conjure X spells.

 

[gyor]

Agreed. They've been hard to predict and not always doing the expected thing…. if ever.


I'm not really counting Ravnica. That's being half done by the MtG team (writing and also likely art) and is really a "bonus" book.
It's not coming at the expense of an existing book "slot". It's only half aimed at D&D; it's uncertain if it will even be AL legal.


Maybe. It is a fairly safe bet. Which is almost why I'm hesitant to "call" that.


They *were* successful. But new books will be competing against those. They'll want new players to go to those first, and will likely hope they continue to have decent sales.

It's a good format, but we need a finite number of races and monsters. Guide to Monsters was half humanoid lore and half low level monsters, while Tome of Foes had a focus on higher level critters.
A third really should do something other than more of the same...

Were I planing their books, I’d do monster hunting book ‘written’ by Van Richten focusing on the “horror” monsters, such as undead, lycans,
and golems that gives monster hunting and investigation adventure advice. Less new monsters and more monster customization to allow you to make foes more unique. Perhaps expanded advice on PC werewolves and related new races (revenant, hagkin, dhampire).

We are no where near the point where we don't have enough races and monsters. We still need a bunch that are important to particular settings like Thrikreen, and to update races from previous editions that were popular.

And there are tons of monsters that need updating and some new monsters to keep things fresh.

 

[gyor]

It is an Easter Egg, but not necessarily for an actual book. I rank the possibility as firstly, a Chris Perkins vintage joke, secondly, a reference to an upcoming D&D themed cocktail recipe book, and thirdly maybe a reference to a game book. Maaaaaybe.

If it occurred in a single mention I'd agree a joke, just it's mentioned more then once, that suggests greater importance then just a joke.

 

[gyor]

So, I just listened to the latest Dragon Talk episode on the way in to work with Matt Foreveck about his new Endless Wuest books. They spoke briefly about the tentative plans for two new ones next year: one, a Swashbuckler Rogue, which feeds pirate speculation. The other, a Cleric, because of where she is "but I shouldn't say more, but you know what I'm talking about, Greg." So, we have our first vague hint at the next storyline. Forbeck dropped the first hints about Acherack in Dungeonology, too...

Cleric hints at Volo's Guide to Spirits and Spectres and the Swashbuckler Rogue suggests the next campaign will be the Pirate one that people have speculated will be next, me included. Not sure what "because of where she is" is supposed to mean, perhaps a theocracy of some sort, maybe menzo even.

 

[Jester David]

We are no where near the point where we don't have enough races and monsters. We still need a bunch that are important to particular settings like Thrikreen, and to update races from previous editions that were popular.

And there are tons of monsters that need updating and some new monsters to keep things fresh.

Which is half the point.
There's five or six must-have races that need to be done. But after that they get to the stuff few people care about: there was a lot more filler monsters in Tome of Foes and it's only going to get worse in the next monster book.
They don't need to keep pumping out filler races and monsters and should pull back on that content except when it's necessary. Save that stuff until they have the content that's really wanted. Just doing content for the sake of content is how you get bloat...

 

[gyor]

Which is half the point.
There's five or six must-have races that need to be done. But after that they get to the stuff few people care about: there was a lot more filler monsters in Tome of Foes and it's only going to get worse in the next monster book.
They don't need to keep pumping out filler races and monsters and should pull back on that content except when it's necessary. Save that stuff until they have the content that's really wanted. Just doing content for the sake of content is how you get bloat...

It's more then 5 or 6 races. Thrikreen, Muls, Half Giants, Kender, Giffs, Hengeyokai, Spiritfolk, Vryloka, Shardminds, Darfellan, Illumians, Bladelings, Shades, Dromite, Alan, Duskling, Gloamling, Hellbred, Hagspawn, Hamadryad, Killoren/Wilden, Lupin, and more. What you call bloat I call fun.

 

[Jester David]

It's more then 5 or 6 races. Thrikreen, Muls, Half Giants, Kender, Giffs, Hengeyokai, Spiritfolk, Vryloka, Shardminds, Darfellan, Illumians, Bladelings, Shades, Dromite, Alan, Duskling, Gloamling, Hellbred, Hagspawn, Hamadryad, Killoren/Wilden, Lupin, and more. What you call bloat I call fun.

Which is the problem.
Some people walked out of 3e thinking it wasn’t enough content. Many were happy with 4e’s daily DDI crunch.

Which is fine, but that’s not good for the game. We don’t need thirty-five races and twenty classes. Some of that can be left for DMsGuild...